Apr 21, 2004 20:05
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Spanish term
Lonjas de Mar
Spanish to English
Social Sciences
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Mediterranean markets
Paralelamente irían apareciendo instituciones públicas destinadas al control y la organización de determinados aspectos de los intercambios comerciales, como, por ejemplo, las Lonjas de Mar, o de mercaderes —antecesoras de las casas de contratación y de las bolsas mercantiles—, o las Mesas de Cambio. En la esfera privada se producirían también otras transformaciones en el mismo sentido, cuya vigencia se ha mantenido hasta nuestros días; así, los mercaderes se dotarían de herramientas contables y mercantiles, como los cheques, las letras de cambio, los seguros o los libros de contabilidad.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 | Lonjas de mar (Exchanges) |
Miguel Llorens
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| 4 +4 | Fish market |
Anastin
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| 5 +1 | waterfront fish markets |
Herman Vilella
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Proposed translations
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Miguel Llorens
Native in Spanish
Experienced financial translator
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, French to Spanish, Spanish, and 1 more.
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Lonjas de mar (Exchanges)
I know you are looking for a specific term, but, in my opinion, the best option is to leave the original in Spanish, because it is a peculiarly Spanish medieval institution. Insert an explanation in round brackets, such as "exchanges" or "commodities exchanges" or "seafood exchanges".
... The Silk ***Exchange (La Lonja**** de la Seda). Home :: Europe :: Spain Daily;
not Mon. The Silk ***Exchange (La Lonja*** de la Seda) in Valencia ...
www.whatsontheplanet.com/wow/ptnr/discovery/ page.jsp?fx=event&event_id=99129 - 35k -
Zaragoza -***Exchange (Lonja)***** / Saragossa; Zaragoza / Aragon / Spain ... - [ Traduzca esta página ]
Lonja (commodities exchange), Ayuntamiento (town hall) and Basílica
de Nuestra Señora del Pilar in Zaragoza. (Aragon, Spain). Spain ...
www.planetware.com/photos/E/EZAR9.HTM - 4k - En caché - Páginas similares
Lonja de la Seda de Valencia - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... The jewel of the European civil Gothic period. Built in the 15th century,
****the Lonja (Exchange)**** is the ultimate symbol of divinity in the town. ...
www.spain.info/.../ Monumentos/K/TW/0/Lonja%20de%20la%20Seda%20de%20Valencia.htm?Language=EN - 79k -
Seville Attractions | Lonely Planet World Guide - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... The 16th-century building designed by Juan de Herrera, was orginially
Seville's ****Lonja (Exchange)**** for commerce with the Americas. ...
www.lonelyplanet.com/destinations/ europe/seville/attractions.htm - 33k
Palma on Encyclopedia.com - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... 17th cent. Nearby are the Castillo della Almudaina (once a Moorish palace),
and the 15th-century ****Lonja [exchange]****. There are several ...
www.encyclopedia.com/html/P/Palma.asp - 47k - 19 Abr 2004
Self catering (Gîtes), Requena, Comunidad valenciana, Spain ... - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... Splendid art and ceramic collections, the elegant ****Lonja (exchange)**** and the lively
modernist market building are just some of Valencia's extensive range of ...
www.ehol.com/accommodation/13110121_en.asp - 18k
Appendix 7: Irrigation and Society in Medieval Valencia - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... A proposal for irrigating the garden of the ****Commodities Exchange (Lonja)****
in 1529 (1) included plans for the construction of a sâniya: ...
libro.uca.edu/irrigation/append7.htm - 6k - En caché - Páginas similares
... The Silk ***Exchange (La Lonja**** de la Seda). Home :: Europe :: Spain Daily;
not Mon. The Silk ***Exchange (La Lonja*** de la Seda) in Valencia ...
www.whatsontheplanet.com/wow/ptnr/discovery/ page.jsp?fx=event&event_id=99129 - 35k -
Zaragoza -***Exchange (Lonja)***** / Saragossa; Zaragoza / Aragon / Spain ... - [ Traduzca esta página ]
Lonja (commodities exchange), Ayuntamiento (town hall) and Basílica
de Nuestra Señora del Pilar in Zaragoza. (Aragon, Spain). Spain ...
www.planetware.com/photos/E/EZAR9.HTM - 4k - En caché - Páginas similares
Lonja de la Seda de Valencia - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... The jewel of the European civil Gothic period. Built in the 15th century,
****the Lonja (Exchange)**** is the ultimate symbol of divinity in the town. ...
www.spain.info/.../ Monumentos/K/TW/0/Lonja%20de%20la%20Seda%20de%20Valencia.htm?Language=EN - 79k -
Seville Attractions | Lonely Planet World Guide - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... The 16th-century building designed by Juan de Herrera, was orginially
Seville's ****Lonja (Exchange)**** for commerce with the Americas. ...
www.lonelyplanet.com/destinations/ europe/seville/attractions.htm - 33k
Palma on Encyclopedia.com - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... 17th cent. Nearby are the Castillo della Almudaina (once a Moorish palace),
and the 15th-century ****Lonja [exchange]****. There are several ...
www.encyclopedia.com/html/P/Palma.asp - 47k - 19 Abr 2004
Self catering (Gîtes), Requena, Comunidad valenciana, Spain ... - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... Splendid art and ceramic collections, the elegant ****Lonja (exchange)**** and the lively
modernist market building are just some of Valencia's extensive range of ...
www.ehol.com/accommodation/13110121_en.asp - 18k
Appendix 7: Irrigation and Society in Medieval Valencia - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... A proposal for irrigating the garden of the ****Commodities Exchange (Lonja)****
in 1529 (1) included plans for the construction of a sâniya: ...
libro.uca.edu/irrigation/append7.htm - 6k - En caché - Páginas similares
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Herman Vilella
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Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, English, and 1 more.
waterfront fish markets
Lonjas de Mar was the old-old Spanish name for waterfront fish markets (or exchanges) ..... and the agents who bought fish there and took it inland were called "exportadores" (ex-portadores" -- carriers or porters FROM the Lonja inland, get it?). So,in Spain an exportador was really what we know today as an importer. Guess what exporters were known as? "Sacadores" ("taker-outers"). Export wine (traditional sweet and strong Sherry or Amontillado) was called "Vino de Saque" -- take-out wine, pronounced "veeno de sake". Origin of the name of a famous Japanes liqueur. Ah ha!!!!
Peer comment(s):
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neilmac
: Ok, although not all are/were right on the waterfront (e.g: in Valencia)
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+4
5 mins
Fish market
http://www.sydneyfishmarket.com.au/
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http://www.photo.net/philg/ny/fish-market.html
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Note added at 32 mins (2004-04-21 20:38:21 GMT)
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a guild, maybe?
(I know what you mean, but I cannot find a proper name for it)
\"A \"guild\" (also spelled \"gild\") was, in medieval times, an association of craftsmen or merchants, formed for mutual aid and protection and to further their own professional interests. The medieval guilds were of two types, the merchant guilds and the craft guilds.
Merchant guilds were associations of all (or most) of the merchants in a particular town or city, be they local or long-distance traders, wholesale or retail sellers, for instance. A modern-day analogy might be a Chamber of Commerce. By the 13th century, the merchant guilds of western Europe were officially recognized by many town governments, comprising, as they did, the wealthiest and most influential citizens in many towns and cities. In the larger towns, a Guildhall would often be provided by the merchants\' guilds. They became intimately involved in regulating and protecting their members\' interests, both in long-distance trade and local town business. Guilds came to control the distribution and sale of food, cloth, and other staple goods, and so often gained a powerful monopoly.\"
www.ancientquest.com/embark/guilds.html
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Note added at 34 mins (2004-04-21 20:39:34 GMT)
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En este extracto hablan de \"Guildhalls\"
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Note added at 7 mins (2004-04-21 20:12:41 GMT)
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http://www.photo.net/philg/ny/fish-market.html
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Note added at 32 mins (2004-04-21 20:38:21 GMT)
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a guild, maybe?
(I know what you mean, but I cannot find a proper name for it)
\"A \"guild\" (also spelled \"gild\") was, in medieval times, an association of craftsmen or merchants, formed for mutual aid and protection and to further their own professional interests. The medieval guilds were of two types, the merchant guilds and the craft guilds.
Merchant guilds were associations of all (or most) of the merchants in a particular town or city, be they local or long-distance traders, wholesale or retail sellers, for instance. A modern-day analogy might be a Chamber of Commerce. By the 13th century, the merchant guilds of western Europe were officially recognized by many town governments, comprising, as they did, the wealthiest and most influential citizens in many towns and cities. In the larger towns, a Guildhall would often be provided by the merchants\' guilds. They became intimately involved in regulating and protecting their members\' interests, both in long-distance trade and local town business. Guilds came to control the distribution and sale of food, cloth, and other staple goods, and so often gained a powerful monopoly.\"
www.ancientquest.com/embark/guilds.html
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Note added at 34 mins (2004-04-21 20:39:34 GMT)
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En este extracto hablan de \"Guildhalls\"
Peer comment(s):
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neilmac
: that's right ...
6 mins
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| agree |
Gabo Pena
8 mins
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| agree |
Penelope Ausejo
21 mins
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| agree |
aracne
: z
38 mins
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Discussion
Lonjas de Mar and Mesas de Cambio refer to specific instutions.
Text deals with trade during the Middle Ages.