Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

vice-reine

English translation:

vicereine

Added to glossary by Helen Shiner
Oct 23, 2008 18:16
15 yrs ago
French term

vice-reine

French to English Art/Literary Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
Talking about a portrait painted by Giulio Romano of the "vice-reine de Naples".

I have found very few references to this, mostly as vice-queen and once as vice-regina. I have never heard of regina (other than a city in Sask., Canada), but I imagine it to mean a female regent? It was, however, from a very reliable source (The Cambridge Companion to Rapheal). Another book called Renaissance Women refers to her as the vice-regent.
I have to say I am stumped on this and would really like to use the correct version (meaning I have no problem using regina if that is indeed correct, even if it mostly appears as vice-queen).

TIA to any history buffs out there!
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Oct 24, 2008 09:11: Helen Shiner Created KOG entry

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emiledgar Oct 23, 2008:
regina Latin for queen as in Victoria Regina.
Vice-reine, either ruling in her own right as the representative of the monarch, or, the wife of the viceroy, such as Edwina Mountbatten, vice-reine of India, wife of Lord Mountbatten.

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vicereine

I had to look it up but I think this sounds very credible.

A viceroy is a royal official who governs a country or province in the name of and as representative of the monarch. The term derives from the Latin prefix vice-, meaning "in the place of" and the French word roi, meaning king. His province or larger territory is called a viceroyalty. The relative adjective is viceregal. A vicereine is a woman in a viceregal position (rare, as it usually includes military high command), or a Viceroy's wife.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viceroy

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http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/vi/vicereine.html

"Q: What is a Viceroy/Vicereine?

A: According to the Oxford English Dictionary, a Viceroy or Vicereine is "One who acts as the governor of a country, province, etc. in the name and by the authority of the supreme ruler; a vice-king." Originally, as the "Seat" of the East Kingdom, Ostgardr was ruled directly by the Crown; for the past few decades it has been ruled by a Viceroy and Vicereine as representatives of the Crown. According to Kingdom law, the Viceroy and Vicereine of Ostgardr outrank all other landed barons, regardless of their dates of elevation, and indeed take precedence over all but royal peers. Within the Crown Province (at least according to one knowledgable source), they take precedence over royal peers as well, except the current King, Queen, Crown Prince, and Crown Princess."

http://www.ostgardr.org/whatwedo/trivia/Vice.Def.php

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Thanks for the points, French Foodie
Peer comment(s):

agree Thais Maria Lips
1 min
Thank you Thais
agree Jean-Louis S. : 100% You beat me to it. http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Vicereine
4 mins
Thank you, jlsjr
agree Jenny w :
29 mins
Thanks, Jenny
agree Sandra Mouton
45 mins
Thanks, Sandra
agree Rachel Ward
2 hrs
Thanks, Rachel
agree Rachel Fell : (capitalised) Vicereine of Naples - http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/ItalianAcademies/DedicateeBriefD...
2 hrs
Thanks, Rachel/Yes, definitely capitalised in this particular case - i.e. as a title not class of thing.
agree Emma Paulay : Yes, Edwina Mountbatten is a good example, as emiledgar mentions.
13 hrs
Thanks, Emma - yes, it is the one that springs to mind.
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21 mins

regent or ruler (for her son Frederick)

I don't think know about regina but she was ruling as regent for her son, so why not regent or ruler?
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