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persistieren

English translation: comment

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German term or phrase:persistieren
English translation:comment
Entered by: deeep

09:05 Dec 27, 2007
German to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - SAP
German term or phrase: persistieren
I stumbled upon this word in a Betriebhandbuch.

The Text:
Da die DWH Systeme die Daten aus der DIDB zum Monatsende in Ihren Systemen persistieren, muss insbesondere kurz vor dem Monatsende verstärkt auf die Qualität der Daten geachtet werden.

what i noticed- persistieren 'aus' der DIDB 'in' Ihren Systemen

my query:
The meaning of persistieren in the above sentence has nothing to do with the English 'to persist'. Or am i mistaken?

Is there an English equivalent to this verb in this context?
deeep
India
Local time: 07:01
comment
Explanation:
'persistieren' (which is anyhow an invention in German) is being used transitively here, which is not possible in (conventional) English.

I'd suggest something like 'as the DWH systems store the data from xxxx in your system in persistent form, ...'

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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-12-27 13:21:39 GMT)
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If this is an accounting system or the data is accounting data, what is probably meant is that the stored data cannot be modified.
Selected response from:

Ken Cox
Local time: 03:31
Grading comment
hey Ken..very good solution..thank you!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +5comment
Ken Cox
3 +1to persist
Aniello Scognamiglio (X)
5 -1persist
Vittorio Ferretti


Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
to persist


Explanation:
"persistieren" is a sometimes poor translation from the English "to persist", but in English it should be the correct technical term.

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Note added at 4 mins (2007-12-27 09:10:26 GMT)
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For references:
Google "persist" and "data"!

Aniello Scognamiglio (X)
Germany
Local time: 03:31
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 22

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Andrej: Im internen SAP-Woerterbuch gibt es leider keine Uebersetzung zu "persistieren" fuers Englische, aber jede Menge Ableitungen wie persistent Data, persistent class usw. Also "konstant machen".
11 mins
agree  earthreptile: I work it IT and we talk about "data persisting" or "the persistence of data"
11 mins
disagree  Erik Brinkhof: This is about "die Systeme persistieren die Daten aus der DIDB in Ihren Systemen" - not about the persistence of data. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_(computer_science)
2 hrs
  -> Of course, it is about the persistance of data! You should read the German sentence again. It says "die *Daten* aus der DIDB zum Monatsende in Ihren Systemen *persistieren*."
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
persist


Explanation:
Duden: for "continue to exist"

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Note added at 2 hrs (2007-12-27 11:17:42 GMT)
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the transitiv usage of "persistieren" is not considered in the Duden; however one can understand trhat the author means: "....make the data persist ....

Vittorio Ferretti
Local time: 03:31
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Erik Brinkhof: Asker's context is not about "continue to exist"
2 mins
  -> as derivations of the Latin word "persistere" persist in Italian, Spanish, Portuguese etc. maybe I have another understanding of "persistieren"
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
comment


Explanation:
'persistieren' (which is anyhow an invention in German) is being used transitively here, which is not possible in (conventional) English.

I'd suggest something like 'as the DWH systems store the data from xxxx in your system in persistent form, ...'

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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-12-27 13:21:39 GMT)
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If this is an accounting system or the data is accounting data, what is probably meant is that the stored data cannot be modified.

Ken Cox
Local time: 03:31
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 28
Grading comment
hey Ken..very good solution..thank you!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Erik Brinkhof
5 mins
agree  Steffen Walter: Could also mean "to save/store permanently".
5 mins
agree  Susan Zimmer: agree with Steffen, would have been my suggestion
13 mins
agree  Aniello Scognamiglio (X): That's what I basically said; the IT term is "to persist" or "to save/store permanently".
15 mins
agree  Vanessa Schlueter
17 mins
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