Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
hinscheidendes, stürzendes Mädchen
English translation:
dying, falling or dying, swooning girl
Added to glossary by
Helen Shiner
Aug 15, 2008 11:07
15 yrs ago
German term
hinscheidendes, stürzendes Mädchen
German to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
Here's the translation so far but does anyone know what this sculpture actually looks like? Is she dying and falling (sounds a bit wrong)
...und dafür die Skulptur Brennende Eurydike (Zu früh) aus dem Jahr 1951 von Josef Thorak angekauft werden sollte. Die Marmor-Relieffigur Thoraks, die ein *hinscheidendes, stürzendes Mädchen* darstellt,
...Josef Thorak’s 1951 sculpture Brennende Eurydike (Zu früh) [Burning Eurydike (Too early)] should be purchased for this. Thorak’s marble relief figure, which depicts a *dying, falling girl*...
...und dafür die Skulptur Brennende Eurydike (Zu früh) aus dem Jahr 1951 von Josef Thorak angekauft werden sollte. Die Marmor-Relieffigur Thoraks, die ein *hinscheidendes, stürzendes Mädchen* darstellt,
...Josef Thorak’s 1951 sculpture Brennende Eurydike (Zu früh) [Burning Eurydike (Too early)] should be purchased for this. Thorak’s marble relief figure, which depicts a *dying, falling girl*...
Proposed translations
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| 4 +1 | your suggestion or dying, swooning girl |
Helen Shiner
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| 5 | perishing, falling girl |
Lonnie Legg
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| 3 | dying, falling girl |
Lingua.Franca
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Aug 15, 2008 16:17: Helen Shiner changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/40542">davidgreen's</a> old entry - "hinscheidendes, stürzendes Mädchen"" to ""your suggestion or dying, swooning girl""
Proposed translations
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your suggestion or dying, swooning girl
Actually, I think your translation is just fine. Eurydice was bitten by a snake which killed her, so she would have slumped or swooned, but 'falling' is fine.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2008-08-15 16:18:56 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks for the points, David. If it is any consolation, titles for sculptures are a pretty fluid thing and are not always directly translated anyway. They are usually not given by the artist, but the dealers/exhibitors instead so change from event to event at times.
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Thanks for the points, David. If it is any consolation, titles for sculptures are a pretty fluid thing and are not always directly translated anyway. They are usually not given by the artist, but the dealers/exhibitors instead so change from event to event at times.
Peer comment(s):
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EC Translate
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Thank you, NO-EN-DE
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Manjula Dias-Hargarter, Ph.D. (X)
: this is what I would have suggested as well!
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Thank you, Manjula
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Lonnie Legg
: "swoon" meaning "to faint" doesn't quite fit her drastic state.
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no, the dying bit does though. Swooning is often used in such contexts and in names for sculpture. Not given as translation as such.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "thanks, I get it that swooning is not exactly correct but I agree with Helen this is how it might best be worded as the title of an artwork. thanks to all, geez no easy answers for me this week, eh?"
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perishing, falling girl
Your example works, but if you want to keep the antiquated quality of "hinscheiden", you could consider "perish" or expire.
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dying, falling girl
I know this answer is a combination of the two answers above, but I dislike swooning (not the same as falling) and perishing.
Also, it's Eurydice, not Eurydike.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-08-15 14:28:32 GMT)
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(Which I just noticed is the same as Helen's suggestion of davidgreen's original answer)... Oops. Sorry.
Also, it's Eurydice, not Eurydike.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-08-15 14:28:32 GMT)
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(Which I just noticed is the same as Helen's suggestion of davidgreen's original answer)... Oops. Sorry.
Peer comment(s):
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Helen Shiner
: swooning only given as a second option as it is frequently used in this sort of art. Agree is not a translation.
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Hence my second note....
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The third image down shows this work by Thorak.
http://www.landesgalerie.at/de/lg/bereich.php?id_bereich=1&p...
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Note added at 6 mins (2008-08-15 11:13:13 GMT)
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Sorry, 4th image down!
http://www.landesgalerie.at/de/lg/bereich.php?id_bereich=1&p...
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Sorry, 4th image down!
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Make sure you spell it with a "c", whatever the answer. It is Eurydice.
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