Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
rentrée
English translation:
indented / forked
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Lavinia Pirlog
Mar 6, 2016 19:13
8 yrs ago
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French term
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rentrée
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Religion
Croix templière pattée rentrée
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Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | indented / forked |
Wendy Streitparth
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| 4 | branchee |
Charles Davis
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| 3 | Cross patty |
dwt2
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Proposed translations
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Wendy Streitparth
Germany
Germany
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Germany
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Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 2 more.
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indented / forked
The Maltese cross has arms which narrow towards the center, and are indented at the ends.
http://www.holylandtreasuresonline.com/Store/Content/Resourc...
Maltese cross. A Greek cross with arms that taper into the center. The outer ends may be forked.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Cross
http://www.holylandtreasuresonline.com/Store/Content/Resourc...
Maltese cross. A Greek cross with arms that taper into the center. The outer ends may be forked.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Cross
Note from asker:
| Thank you. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
12 mins
Cross patty
Note from asker:
| Thank you, but I need ''rentrée'', not ''pattée'' |
Peer comment(s):
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: No doubt helpful, but I think the Asker is wanting help with how "rentrée" fits in.
11 mins
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Could "Maltese Cross" be the answer ?
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5 hrs
branchee
As so often, the English heraldic term is actually taken from French, though the accent is usually omitted.
Roy has already helpfully posted images of the kind of cross referred to as "pattée rentrée". Here they are again:
https://www.google.es/search?biw=1024&bih=644&tbm=isch&sa=1&...
Now, as he says, these are very similar to the type of cross known in heraldry as a cross moline:
https://www.google.es/search?q="cross moline"&num=100&tbm=is...
They are in the same family, as it were, as the well-known Maltese cross, but clearly not the same:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_cross
However, although I thought at first that this type of cross was a moline cross, I've changed my mind. In a proper moline cross the points of the arms are more splayed. When you can compare them, the "croix pattée rentrée" is actually a "cross formee branchee". Here are some illustrations that allow you to distinguish them from each other, and also from the cross ancree, with the splayed arms curl round to form a kind of hook.
http://www.orderstjohn.org/osj/cross04.gif
from this page:
http://www.orderstjohn.org/osj/cross.htm
http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/tds/images/cross/cross_large/...
"The cross is a cross formee branchee since the Maltese Cross didn't exist until the 16th century."
See illustration (first post on the page).
http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=85735.0
This is really a formy or formee cross rather than a cross pattee, whose arms are much more splayed:
http://www.knightsusa.org/contents.html#Anchor-34180
"Branchee" can be applied to an ordinary Latin cross too. See here "St George's Cross Branchee"
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ufe04.html#04-4
Roy has already helpfully posted images of the kind of cross referred to as "pattée rentrée". Here they are again:
https://www.google.es/search?biw=1024&bih=644&tbm=isch&sa=1&...
Now, as he says, these are very similar to the type of cross known in heraldry as a cross moline:
https://www.google.es/search?q="cross moline"&num=100&tbm=is...
They are in the same family, as it were, as the well-known Maltese cross, but clearly not the same:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_cross
However, although I thought at first that this type of cross was a moline cross, I've changed my mind. In a proper moline cross the points of the arms are more splayed. When you can compare them, the "croix pattée rentrée" is actually a "cross formee branchee". Here are some illustrations that allow you to distinguish them from each other, and also from the cross ancree, with the splayed arms curl round to form a kind of hook.
http://www.orderstjohn.org/osj/cross04.gif
from this page:
http://www.orderstjohn.org/osj/cross.htm
http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/tds/images/cross/cross_large/...
"The cross is a cross formee branchee since the Maltese Cross didn't exist until the 16th century."
See illustration (first post on the page).
http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=85735.0
This is really a formy or formee cross rather than a cross pattee, whose arms are much more splayed:
http://www.knightsusa.org/contents.html#Anchor-34180
"Branchee" can be applied to an ordinary Latin cross too. See here "St George's Cross Branchee"
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ufe04.html#04-4
Note from asker:
| Thank you. |
Discussion
Voir :
Croix molinée : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_moline#/media/File:Cross...
https://www.google.nl/search?q=Croix templière pattée rentré...
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