Jun 29, 2022 12:36
1 yr ago
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French term
sonde sécante
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Construction / Civil Engineering
work site equipment
(dans un tableau récapitulatif de travaux de chantier):
- Découpe de la dalle béton par sondes sécantes
- Découpe de la dalle béton par sondes sécantes
Proposed translations
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| 3 +2 | secant holes |
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References
| SÉCANT, -ANTE, adj. et subst. fém. // CNRTL |
Daryo
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Proposed translations
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secant holes
Your added context re. cutting out a hole in the slab sheds light on this.
I'm not sure 'sonde' is the right word here, but still, I can imagine a hole being created by drilling 4 series of holes, in a square pattern, where the edges of the holes touch or overlap. The technique is used in what is called secant piling, where you drill a series of holes a little under a hole diameter apart, fill them with concrete, then, when the concrete has hardened, drill holes between the concrete piles, and fill them too. This gives a line of intersecting/overlapping or secant piles.
By drilling secant holes in the concrete slab around the perimeter of where you want the hole to be, the concrete will eventually drop out.
Maybe there is confusion between 'sonde' and 'sondage' which can mean 'borehole', i.e. a hole in the ground.
Découpe de la dalle béton par sondes sécantes --> cut out a hole in the concrete slab by drilling secant holes.
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Note added at 1 day 12 hrs (2022-07-01 00:45:29 GMT)
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The Canterbury [NZ] Clothing Company logo you can see on many a rugby jersey, symbolizing CCC and intermingled kiwis, is also an example of 'secant-ism).
I'm not sure 'sonde' is the right word here, but still, I can imagine a hole being created by drilling 4 series of holes, in a square pattern, where the edges of the holes touch or overlap. The technique is used in what is called secant piling, where you drill a series of holes a little under a hole diameter apart, fill them with concrete, then, when the concrete has hardened, drill holes between the concrete piles, and fill them too. This gives a line of intersecting/overlapping or secant piles.
By drilling secant holes in the concrete slab around the perimeter of where you want the hole to be, the concrete will eventually drop out.
Maybe there is confusion between 'sonde' and 'sondage' which can mean 'borehole', i.e. a hole in the ground.
Découpe de la dalle béton par sondes sécantes --> cut out a hole in the concrete slab by drilling secant holes.
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Note added at 1 day 12 hrs (2022-07-01 00:45:29 GMT)
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The Canterbury [NZ] Clothing Company logo you can see on many a rugby jersey, symbolizing CCC and intermingled kiwis, is also an example of 'secant-ism).
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: Can hardly presume to 'agree' without specialist knowledge here, but I think you're onto the right idea with 'a line of touching holes'
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I'll have you charged with use of inappropriate language!
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Johannes Gleim
: Would easily match the phrase 'Découpe de la dalle béton par sondages sécants', provided that this is the right track and that 'sondes' is a typo. But we still need confirmation by the asker.
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Thanks for the Agree.
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Daryo
: a pretty standard method, I recognise it now; in fact the first line of holes is drilled at intervals of about 1 diameter and half, as in this picture https://res.cloudinary.com/proz/image/upload/v1656636152/kud...
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Reference comments
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Reference:
SÉCANT, -ANTE, adj. et subst. fém. // CNRTL
SÉCANT, -ANTE, adj. et subst. fém.
MATHÉMATIQUES
A. − GÉOMÉTRIE
---1. Adj. Qui coupe une ligne, une surface, un volume. Droite sécante à une surface; plan sécant à une sphère. Le problème des cartes géographiques (...) consiste à représenter la surface d'une sphère sur un plan de telle façon que la représentation soit conforme, c'est-à-dire que l'angle des courbes images de deux courbes sécantes quelconques tracées sur la sphère soit égal à l'angle de ces courbes (Gds cour. pensée math., 1948, p. 164).Deux droites sont dites sécantes si elles ont un point commun et un seul (Bouvier-GeorgeMath.1979).
---2. Subst. fém. Droite sécante. Théorème. Si deux droites forment avec une sécante deux angles alternes-internes égaux, elles sont parallèles (Roux, Miellou,Géom., 1946, p. 51).
B. − TRIGONOMÉTRIE. Fonction sécante et, absol., sécante. L'une des six lignes trigonométriques d'un angle ou d'un arc; l'inverse du cosinus (symb. séc.). V. cosécante ex. de Ac.
Prononc. et Orth.: [sekɑ ̃], fém. [-ɑ ̃:t]. Ac. 1694: secante, dep. 1762: sé-, subst. fém. Étymol. et Hist. 1. 1542 adj. (Ch. de Bovelles, Géom., f o4 v o); 2. 1634 subst. fém. (S. Stevin, Œuvres Math., Cosmographie, II, p. 2); 3. 1680 « l'une des six lignes trigonométriques d'un angle » (Rich.). Empr. au lat.secans, part. prés. de secare « couper, découper », « entamer », « fendre, couper ».
https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/sécant
MATHÉMATIQUES
A. − GÉOMÉTRIE
---1. Adj. Qui coupe une ligne, une surface, un volume. Droite sécante à une surface; plan sécant à une sphère. Le problème des cartes géographiques (...) consiste à représenter la surface d'une sphère sur un plan de telle façon que la représentation soit conforme, c'est-à-dire que l'angle des courbes images de deux courbes sécantes quelconques tracées sur la sphère soit égal à l'angle de ces courbes (Gds cour. pensée math., 1948, p. 164).Deux droites sont dites sécantes si elles ont un point commun et un seul (Bouvier-GeorgeMath.1979).
---2. Subst. fém. Droite sécante. Théorème. Si deux droites forment avec une sécante deux angles alternes-internes égaux, elles sont parallèles (Roux, Miellou,Géom., 1946, p. 51).
B. − TRIGONOMÉTRIE. Fonction sécante et, absol., sécante. L'une des six lignes trigonométriques d'un angle ou d'un arc; l'inverse du cosinus (symb. séc.). V. cosécante ex. de Ac.
Prononc. et Orth.: [sekɑ ̃], fém. [-ɑ ̃:t]. Ac. 1694: secante, dep. 1762: sé-, subst. fém. Étymol. et Hist. 1. 1542 adj. (Ch. de Bovelles, Géom., f o4 v o); 2. 1634 subst. fém. (S. Stevin, Œuvres Math., Cosmographie, II, p. 2); 3. 1680 « l'une des six lignes trigonométriques d'un angle » (Rich.). Empr. au lat.secans, part. prés. de secare « couper, découper », « entamer », « fendre, couper ».
https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/sécant
Discussion
Cutting concrete with some sort of "torch" or "lance"? Doesn't sound much likely. It's usually done with some kind of rotating tool studded with industrial diamonds or some other extra hard material.
Note also that some pills are described as 'sécable' when they are pre-scored so they can be broken into 2 or more pieces.
I'm wondering if this could simply be some kind of 'cutting torch' or 'lance' — though it seems a curious way to describe it!
IOW this tool would be called "une sonde" because you don't need access from both sides - you can start cutting from the surface on one side and progressively sink the cutting tool into the concrete.
Still, there is the problem that there are several types of "plunging" tools for cutting concrete. What exactly this "sonde sécante" would look like is anyone's guess without more information.
You could ignore "sécant(e)" as used in geometry - which search engines will throw at you in quantities as their "answers", and go back oldest meaning of "sécant(e)" and simply see this as some kind of "sonde" that can be used as "cutting tool", (or a cutting tool that looks like "une sonde")
Another possibility: "a tool for angled cutting"
"sonde sécante" = outil pour couper le béton à angle sécant ??
(so there would still be a connection with "sécant(e)" as used in geometry)
OTOH there are no relevant ghits at all for "sonde sécante", which is not a good sign. A typo is also plausible.