Dec 12, 2020 18:04
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choosing between managed and were able to

Non-PRO English Other General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters In a grammar test
This sentence comes from a grammar test on modal verbs and their alternatives:

"14. Jane and John saved and saved, and finally they _____ buy the house of their dreams."
Options to choose from:
A) can B) could C) managed to D) couldn’t

I guess the right choice would be C) managed, but could I also say 'finally they were able to buy..."

Would it be a better option in the above sentence?

Thank you in advance.
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Dec 12, 2020 22:14: Tony M changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

Dec 13, 2020 00:59: writeaway changed "Field (write-in)" from "Grammar Test" to "In a grammar test"

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Non-PRO (3): Yvonne Gallagher, Helena Chavarria, Tony M

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Discussion

Sterk (asker) Dec 26, 2020:
@O'Tuama Your previous comment "a) is not wrong!" gave a new alternative to what would be obvious and the only possible option, at least to a non-native speaker. it's facsinating, isn't it!
Of course, it all depends on the context... except when one don't have any context as the case is. It's just one item from a school test where you've got to choose only one option.
Now get down to business: if you were taking IELTS or any other important exam would you have the guts to for a) as a correct option?
Cilian O'Tuama Dec 26, 2020:
That's all I'm saying, a) needn't be wrong. Other solutions may be more apt, but a) ain't wrong.
Tina Vonhof (X) Dec 13, 2020:
Agree with Cilian I also opt for a). The word 'finally' puts it in the present: and finally (now) they can buy the house of their dreams. b) would be my second choice.
Yvonne Gallagher Dec 13, 2020:
@ Cillian they saved and saved=past tense and likely over many years so would really need a "now" if you want to use present
Cilian O'Tuama Dec 13, 2020:
a) is not wrong! Could be perfectly alright.
IMO only d) is wrong.
Helena Chavarria Dec 12, 2020:
@Yvonne Hahaha!

BTW, it goes without saying that I fully agree with your explanation ;-)
Yvonne Gallagher Dec 12, 2020:
@Helena Great minds! Easy to know who teaches English
Yvonne Gallagher Dec 12, 2020:
@ Asker a) and d) are wrong
c) and d) and your proposal of "able to are OK

BUT the best option is "managed to" quite simply because it shows how hard it has been for the couple to MANAGE to do this! (they've saved and saved...) There is a definite nuance there and nothing to do with "formality" "elegant" or "more natural" or the non-idiomatic English "the most correct one"

As an EFL and English teacher that's the one I'd be looking for
Helena Chavarria Dec 12, 2020:
'Managed to' means that somebody has successfully achieved something that involved a certain effort.

'Was/were able to' means that somebody has done something.

Compare 'he managed to win the race' - it was difficult but he won; 'he won the race' and 'he was able to win the race' - in this case, we don't know whether or not he actually won.

Here's a useful reference:

When we talk about achieving something on a specific occasion in the past, we use was/were able to (= had the ability to) and managed to (= succeeded in doing something difficult).

https://learnenglish.britishcouncil.org/grammar/intermediate...

Responses

+3
37 mins
Selected

B) and C) are correct, "were able to" sounds more natural.

B) and C) are correct, "were able to" sounds more natural.
Peer comment(s):

agree Charlotte Fleming
40 mins
Thank you!
neutral Yvonne Gallagher : nope, not in the context it isn't
1 hr
Thank you!
neutral Sheila Wilson : I agree about B and C, but C is the most accurate in context
1 hr
Thank you!
agree philgoddard
21 hrs
Thank you!
agree Cilian O'Tuama : a) is not incorrect, though b) or c) perhaps more likely
6 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you all very much! Your feedbacks and discussion have been most interesting. So it seems that only one choice d) has got no vote "
+3
5 mins

managed to

The formality levels of your two options differ. Managed to matches the low level of formality of the text.
Peer comment(s):

agree Yvonne Gallagher : most appropriate here but not for your reason
1 hr
agree Tony M : I agree with Yvonne's comment — there's nothing of less or more "formality" about this situation
3 hrs
agree Oliver Simões
5 hrs
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5 mins

Both are correct, but I actually prefer ... they were able to buy ...

I think it is a lot more elegant than managed to
Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : Except that the EN syntax doesn't really support this: it would be more natural to write '...and they were finally able to...'
3 hrs
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47 mins

managed to

The test is asking the most correct one, and this is C.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : Answer already given.
3 hrs
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