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Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

P.i.

English translation:

Perito industriale / industrial technician

Added to glossary by martini
Mar 4, 2020 13:36
4 yrs ago
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Italian term

P.i.

Italian to English Medical Medical (general)
This is the title of a gentleman listed as a member of an Ethics Committee reviewing a clinical trial - he is the voluntary sector representative. I can't think what P.i. stands for in this context. (It's obviously not principal investigator.) All the other committee members are either 'Dr', 'Prof.' 'Avv' or 'Ing' etc. as usual - but P. i.?
Proposed translations (English)
5 Perito industriale
3 +1 Professioni Infermieristiche
3 interested/indefinite person
References
I for infermieristico?
Change log

Mar 7, 2020 15:18: martini Created KOG entry

Discussion

Joseph Tein Mar 5, 2020:
Time to move on I appreciate your attention to this little detail, Penny. And at this point I think it's time to tell the company "unknown abbreviation" and move on. You've probably delivered this days ago anyway.
pennylyd (asker) Mar 5, 2020:
As regards the nursing profession suggestion, In the example I've given the nursing representative's name is actually preceded by an equally puzzling abbreviation 'Li. d'! And I'm not sure that this would be used as someone's title in the same way that 'Avv' is used for a lawyer and 'Ing' is used for a qualified engineer.
pennylyd (asker) Mar 4, 2020:
I found this on the internet which is similar to my translation.
http://www.server-is6.it/azospno/226a.pdf
pennylyd (asker) Mar 4, 2020:
I agree what Phil that an industrial expert would not normally be on a clinical trials ethics committee - and in fact this gentleman is the voluntary sector representative. I suppose it's possible it could refer back to a former occupation/former training? I think I'll just leave it untranslated with a note for the client. Thanks for all the ideas!
Michael Korovkin Mar 4, 2020:
incidentally! Perito informatico?
Michael Korovkin Mar 4, 2020:
the reasons are too many to enumerate for examle, ethical aspects of installing video cameras, say, in the library whould also require taking into account the technical aspects of their installability.
When we had an ethics board concerning prevention/sanctioning of plagiarism among university students, we had an informatics expert sitting with us, for lot of plagiarism cases today require informatics expertise. And so forth...
philgoddard Mar 4, 2020:
I don't see why they'd have a perito industriale on an ethics committee.
pennylyd (asker) Mar 4, 2020:
Yes, perito industriale does seem like a possibility - thanks
https://www.peritioristano.it/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Abb...
Michael Korovkin Mar 4, 2020:
with Martini perito industriale
martini Mar 4, 2020:
perito industriale / industrial technician non è un laureato come gli altri, ma la sigla è ampiamente usata in italiano, potrebbe essere un perito chimico o informatico in questo caso (poi ci sono i periti in elettronica, meccanica, meccatronica ecc.)
philgoddard Mar 4, 2020:
I think "interinale", interim, is more likely.
Luigi Argentino Mar 4, 2020:
Mine is only a hypothesis. Honestly, I'm not sure. I'd like to hear other opinions.

From the second link pag 5:

Art 4
Il Presidente
Il Comitato Etico elegge al proprio interno un Presidente ed un altro membro che lo sostituisca. I membri del Comitato non possono delegare altri in proprio luogo.
Il Presidente, che rappresenta il CE Palermo 2 nelle relazioni esterne, convoca le sedute e ne stabilisce l ordine del giorno. Presiede le sedute, moderandone la discussione e sovraintendendo alla redazione del verbale. Firma con il segretario i verbali delle sedute.
E preferibile che il Presidente sia un membro esterno.
pennylyd (asker) Mar 4, 2020:
So you're saying this means Presidente Interno X - wouldn't it more usual if this was the case to refer to him as Presidente interno Sig. X? And an internal President/Chair of what exactly? He's not the Ethics Committee Chair (or vice-Chair) - other members have those roles. Just trying to understand. Thanks
Luigi Argentino Mar 4, 2020:
Presidente interno? Ho notato questa carica all'interno di numerosi comitati etici.

https://www.asp.cz.it/files/old/regolamento_comitato_etico_r...
http://www.asptrapani.it/upload/asp_trapani/gestionedocument...
pennylyd (asker) Mar 4, 2020:
Yes, no joy, I'm afraid.
philgoddard Mar 4, 2020:
Have you tried Googling him?

Proposed translations

3 days 19 mins
Selected

Perito industriale

in quanto rappresentante delle associazioni di volontariato non è necessario che sia medico o avvocato o altro
tra l'altro, la persona nominata nel pdf, è presidente di un'associazione di Novara
“Ursla Novara” (Uniti per la ricerca sulla sclerosi laterale amiotrofica)

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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I agree with you that this seems the most likely - thanks for your suggestion"
6 hrs

interested/indefinite person

It could be : Persona indefinita or Persona interessata.

https://www.linguee.es/espanol-italiano/search?source=auto&q...
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+1
17 hrs

Professioni Infermieristiche

As Joseph said and I concur so I'll make it official.
ùThis is the title that makes most sense in this context.
Reference:

http://www.profinf.net/pro3/index.php/IN/

Peer comment(s):
agree Rachel Fell : Sounds likely.
5 hrs
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Reference comments

6 hrs
Reference:

I for infermieristico?

on this web page they explain what an ethics committee is, mentioning it could include someone from the nursing field: La legge stabilisce che un Comitato etico deve essere formato da esperti in materie scientifiche, cliniche, mediche, legislative, etico-morali, provenienti da diversi ambiti, sia tecnici sia laici (cioè rappresentanti del mondo non tecnico-scientifico), comprendendo anche il campo infermieristico e quello della assistenza e del volontariato.

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Note added at 6 hrs (2020-03-04 20:25:22 GMT)
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personale infermieristico?
Reference:

http://https://www.partecipasalute.it/cms_2/CE

Peer comments on this reference comment:
neutral Joseph Tein : Could be "professione infermieristica"
59 mins
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