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Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

valori densitometrici in condizioni basali

English translation:

baseline density

Added to glossary by texjax DDS PhD
Nov 30, 2018 14:54
5 yrs ago
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Italian term

in condizioni basali

Italian to English Medical Medical (general) CT scan
"Nodulo del rene destro di 17 mm con valori densitometrici in condizioni basali compatibili in prima ipotesi con carcinoma."

(I have changed some of the info but wanted to include as much context as possible).

"in condizioni basali"... does this simply mean "normally"? I more or less understand what they mean here, I'm just really looking for confirmation, and suggestions on how best to word this phrase.

Do they mean that the density of this particular nodule indicates it is most likely to be a carcinoma?

Thanks for any input!
Proposed translations (English)
5 +1 baseline density
5 +1 under baseline conditions
4 in basal condition
Change log

Dec 6, 2018 02:07: texjax DDS PhD Created KOG entry

Discussion

Joseph Tein Dec 1, 2018:
See previous question I asked about this (in a slightly different form) a few years ago.

See: https://www.proz.com/kudoz/italian-to-english/medical-genera...

To the best of my understanding, it simply means "without contrast" Here is one online explanation: " Ogni TC può essere eseguita in condizioni di base o con mezzo di contrasto. In questo caso, attraverso un piccolo ago di plastica, viene iniettata endovena una dose variabile di un liquido a base di iodio in grado di creare un contrasto appunto con il sangue e permettere così una migliore visualizzazione del sistema vascolare (arterie e vene) e una distinzione tra i diversi organi e i diversi tessuti del corpo umano. "

(Just supporting what Judy has told you.)
JudyC Nov 30, 2018:
YES Multiphase renal CT in the evaluation of renal masses: is the nephrographic
phase necessary?

[... ] Standard four-phase helical renal computed tomography (CT) has
been recommended and widely used in many clinical centers for
detection and staging of renal tumors [2–4]. It includes preliminary
phase (unenhanced phase), corticomedullary phase (CMP), nephro-
graphic phase, and excretory phase (EP), corresponding to a scan
delay of 30 s, 90 s, and 240 s at post intravenous (iv) contrast
injections, respectively.
Fiona Grace Peterson (asker) Nov 30, 2018:
MDC That's interesting Judy - this is actually a CT with contrast (sorry for omitting that detail), so is it normal practice to perform a scan without contrast before injecting the material?
JudyC Nov 30, 2018:
On a CT scan "basale" often refers to the pre-contrast scan, i.e. baseline before injection of the contrast agent
Fiona Grace Peterson (asker) Nov 30, 2018:
Anthony This is a written report, which "photographs" the clinical picture at the time the test was performed. This is why I'm not sure that talking about "baseline" is accurate. My hunch is that they mean "given all the information we have to hand, we can reasonably assume this to be a carcinoma." But I am not at all sure. And I do not want to say you are wrong. These are just my thoughts.
Anthony Green Nov 30, 2018:
before treatment if you were communicating with the patient you'd probably say "before treatment"
Fiona Grace Peterson (asker) Nov 30, 2018:
"noto nodulo del rene". The text actually says "noto nodulo" - sorry for omitting that, not sure it makes any difference to the translation of this term. Thanks for your help so far!

Proposed translations

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baseline density

I don't disagree per se with the previous answer but I would slightly rephrase and use baseline density (measurement) instead.

To study the kidney, although it is sometimes distinguishable from surrounding tissues without the need for contrast media, their administration is necessary in order to distinguish between the cortex and medulla, which have similar baseline tissue densities (CT numbers).
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S008525381...


Multislice CT
- Page 499 - Google Books Result

https://books.google.com/books?isbn=3540331255

Maximilian F Reiser, ‎Christoph R. Becker, ‎Konstantin Nikolaou - 2008 - ‎Medical
36.5 Applications in the Abdomen 36.5.1 DE Imaging of Renal Masses ... agent in order to allow for baseline density measurements of the renal mass and to ...

Renal Masses | Radiology Key

https://radiologykey.com/renal-masses-3/



Aug 7, 2016 - Familial renal cancer Renal cell tumors Malignant Clear cell renal cell ... Pre-contrast images are used for baseline density measurements in ...


Oxford Textbook of Clinical Nephrology Volume 1


https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0198567960


Alex M. Davison - 2005 - ‎Kidney diseases
Curved reformations are useful to display the whole length of the renal arteries or ... Indeed, baseline density measurements are necessary in renal lesions to ...

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Introduction to renal ct scan - SlideShare


https://www.slideshare.net/hishamik/introduction-to-renal-ct...






Jun 4, 2017 - This is about Introduction To renal CT scan Protocol what are the ... scan • baseline density measurements for evaluating renal masses ...
Peer comment(s):
neutral Joseph Tein : See my comment above.
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agree JudyC : Can be said in several ways, and I don't see anything wrong with this suggestion. See here for the importance of the pre-contrast (or unenhanced, or non contrast-enhanced) scan for detecting kidney cancers. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22528901
2 days 18 hrs
Thank you Judy.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you everyone for your help! Much appreciated as always."
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under baseline conditions

from the online medical dictionary of which was unaware until a few seconds ago: baseline condition. an environmental condition during which a particular behavior reflects a stable rate of response before the introduction of experimental or therapeutic conditions.


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https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/baseline co...

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yes, "before treatment" doesn't necessarily fit in this case, but I think that you're still referring to a starting point for a treatment regimen, which they will use as a reference to see whether that treatment is working, so "under baseline conditions" should still work for you

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yes, "before treatment" doesn't necessarily seem to fit in this case, but I think that you're still referring to a starting point for a treatment regimen, which they will use as a reference figure to see whether that treatment is working, so "under baseline conditions" should still work for you
Reference:

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/baseline+condition

Note from asker:
Thanks Anthony... I'm just not entirely sure this fits here, since we're talking about a CT scan rather than a clinical trial or something similar.
Peer comment(s):
agree Lirka : I think this fits well, even though it is not a clinical trial. It means before treatment, but I would translate literally as Anthony suggested.
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thanks Lirka
neutral Joseph Tein : See my comment above. We need to translate the meaning, not the words.
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in basal condition

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11426222_Release_an...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1905025/

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CT scans in basal conditions

https://books.google.it/books?id=gJZfBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA238&lpg=P...
Peer comment(s):
neutral Joseph Tein : You provided a better reference, since it deals specifically with CT scans and includes the phrase "in basal conditions." However, the book was translated from Italian, so I still do not trust that this translated phrase is correct English usage.
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