Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

to obtain charges

English answer:

to be awarded a (recompensed) duty, task or responsibility (or plural)

Added to glossary by Yvonne Gallagher
Oct 15, 2018 20:33
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English term

to obtain charges

English Law/Patents Law (general)
I'm translating a power of attorney. It says:

,,XXX hereby appoints:

Mr YYY

(hereinafter called ‘the Attorney’) as the true and lawful Attorney of the Company for and in the name of and on behalf of the Company to do or execute all or any of the acts and things hereinafter mentioned, that is to say:

-to enter into any arrangements with any governments or authorities (supreme, municipal, local or otherwise) or any corporations, trust companies, banks, companies or persons, and to obtain from such governments, authorities, corporations, companies or persons, any charges, contracts, decrees, grants, licenses, leases, rights, privileges and concessions which the said Attorney may think desirable in the interest of the Company.''


The meaning of ''charges'' is not clear to me in this particular context. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Oct 18, 2018 16:37: Yvonne Gallagher Created KOG entry

Discussion

Grzegorz Mysiński (asker) Oct 18, 2018:
Thank you everyone for your input, its greatly appreciated.

I did find a version with the word ''charter'', too.
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/company/03470108/filing-history... page 5 of the pdf.
Is this an example of a text being modified (perhaps accidentally) as it is reproduced or distributed ''all over the world''?

Still, my text said ''charges'', not ''charters''. Thank you all once again.
Björn Vrooman Oct 18, 2018:
@B D Finch In Dublin, they say "charters":
"...and to obtain from any Government, Authority, company, firm or person any charters, contracts, decrees, rights, privileges and concessions and to carry out, exercise and comply with any such charters, contracts, decrees, rights, privileges and concessions."
https://www.dublinchamber.ie/getattachment/About-Us/Code-of-...

The asker's version is most likely from a non-ENS document.
B D Finch Oct 16, 2018:
@Daryo Nothing in the text quoted by the Asker implies that these are charges on property. Indeed, as it precedes "contracts, decrees, grants, licenses", it might be more likely that these aren't charges on property.
Daryo Oct 15, 2018:
the kind of "charges" that can have a value for a company are "charges" that you can put on a property (mortgages, liens & similar) or even "floating charges" on someone else's bank account account or rolling capital.

These "charges" [obtained on someone else's property] are collateral for what's owed to the company, so their definite and real value is in reducing or eliminating the risks for the company of not getting paid.

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a duty, task or responsibility (or plural)

I think singular is better here though you could use plural: duties, tasks, responsibilities.

That's how I understand it here since it it part of a list of things to be obtained

"which the said Attorney may think desirable in the interest of the Company"

In the sense of charge someone to do something for you, i.e. give them a task or responsibility (as distinct from an actual contract which comes next in the list)

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BTW "to obtain" is to get or to be awarded such responsibilities, duties, or tasks from the aforesaid "governments, authorities, corporations, companies or persons"

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https://www.thefreedictionary.com/charges

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Glad to have helped. (And I really don't agree with other suggestions at all in this context)
Peer comment(s):

agree Viktoria Kitsun
4 mins
Many thanks:-)
agree Tina Vonhof (X)
47 mins
Many thanks:-)
disagree Daryo : makes no sense - that kind of "charges" -- on its own -- are worthless until confirmed through a contract.
1 hr
Wrong. Yet again! Nothing to do with finance.
agree Charles Davis : I think this is the likeliest meaning. "Charges" in this sense is close to "contracts": an opportunity to perform a service for remuneration (which is of course understood).
20 hrs
Many thanks:-) Yes, I think its place in the list points to this meaning
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to obtain fees, penalties, royalties etc.

Your text does leave this a bit vague. However, bear in mind that the verb "obtain" is used to cover a long list of things that might individually use a different verb and that though "charges" are usually levied and collected, licence should be allowed for the sake of economising on verbs.

So, I think that "charges" should be understood broadly as charges for services, permissions, licences etc. I think it unlikely that it means charges on property, though that isn't totally impossible. You put a charge on a property, rather than obtaining a charge on a property.
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