Apr 4, 2018 18:12
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Φ148 x 111.3 mm (Ø5.8” x 4.4”)

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Hi,
I am translating a camera User Guide. I need to know what the symbols Φ and Ø represent.
Dimensions (Ø x H) = Φ148 x 111.3 mm (Ø5.8” x 4.4”)

Many Thanks
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Apr 5, 2018 15:33: B D Finch changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

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PRO (1): Hazem Zaki

Non-PRO (3): Tony M, Catharine Cellier-Smart, B D Finch

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Diameter

In engineering drawings, that symbol is used to denote diameter of circles in whatever the length unit of the drawing is (typically inches or mm).
both Φ and Ø are the same.

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Note added at 44 mins (2018-04-04 18:57:26 GMT)
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As Tony mentioned, you have to pay extra care in your document for the difference between Ø with a slash, which usually denotes "Diameter", and Φ, which is the greek symbol of "Phi".
in the case of your question, both (the second is sure by mistake) denote Diameter.
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M : Yes, although strictly speaking Φ is wrong; Asker's document is clearly (carelessly?) using them interchangeably. Also often abbreviated simply to dia.
2 mins
Thanks Tony. I agree with you regarding their mistake, but I just meant they denote the same measurement here.
agree Islam Emara
43 mins
Thanks, Islam.
agree Daryo : Φ is here a mistake - these are the external dimensions of a dome camera // hundreds of them exactly described this way - looks like a case of rebadging of one and same popular model!
1 hr
Thanks, Daryo.
agree Giovanna Alessandra Meloni
2 hrs
Thanks, Giovanna.
agree Ahmed El-Sayed
13 hrs
agree B D Finch
20 hrs
agree Charles Davis : This misuse of Φ for Ø is not uncommon. The fact that 5.8" and 4.4" are equivalent to 148 mm and 111.3 mm confirms that they have the same meaning here: diameter.
23 hrs
agree NishantM
6 days
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24 mins

Φ=Phi ////////Ø = diameter

Φ=Phi

(mathematics) The golden ratio, an irrational number with a value of approximately 1.618033988 which expresses the relationship that the sum of two quantities is to the larger quantity as the larger is to the smaller.

Ø = diameter

The diameter symbol (⌀) (Unicode character U+2300) is similar to the lowercase letter ø, and in some typefaces it even uses the same glyph, although in many others the glyphs are subtly distinguishable (normally, the diameter symbol uses an exact circle and the letter o is somewhat stylized). The diameter symbol is used extensively in engineering drawings, and it is also seen anywhere that abbreviating "diameter" is useful, such as on camera lenses. For example, a lens with a diameter of 82 mm would be labeled ⌀ 82 mm.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : Yes, but that's not really going to help solve Asker's problem, is it, since 'phi' is clearly wrong here – it's just an erroneous use of the wrong symbol.
2 mins
neutral Daryo : The golden ratio is a ratio [dimension 0] so it can't make any sense here - what's the point of mentioning it?
1 hr
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12 hrs

Φ = power, Ø = diameter

Gaussian optics or how to handle real, thick optics
ecee.colorado.edu/~mcleod/pdfs/OESD/lecturenotes/ThickLenses.pdf
ECE 5616 OE System Design. Robert McLeod. 84. Gaussian design aka thick lenses. •Design of ideal imaging systems with geometrical optics. –Gaussian design. Thick lenses are fully characterized by three quantities: 1. Effective focal length (F) or power (1/F=Φ). 2. Front principal plane, P. 3. Rear principal plane, P'. P'. F.

Image Formation in the Ray Model
https://www.cis.rit.edu/class/simg303/Notes/Ch9-ImageFormati...
IMAGE FORMATION IN THE RAY MODEL. We often use the 0power1 φ instead of the focal length f to describe the lens, since the powers add. 2. PlanoMconvex lens, plane side forward: rQ. ] &∞. rR. \ P. Q. оQ. K. Q о'R. ] −. HиR − QI. rR. ] HиR − QI. гrRг. ^ P б ]. гrRг. иR − Q. G RгrRг. 3. PlanoMconcave, plane side forward:.
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M : True enough — though the 'phi' is not totally relevant here, since it is clearly a mistake!
24 mins
disagree Daryo : all true but irrelevant for this ST: "Φ148 x 111.3 mm (Ø5.8” x 4.4”)" describes external dimensions of a dome camera, nothing to do with optics.
4 hrs
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Reference comments

17 hrs
Reference:

popular model for the box containing a dome camera

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q="Φ148 x 111.3 mm (Ø5.8” x ...

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q="Φ148 x 111.3 mm (Ø5.8” x ...

if you go through all the ghits you get about 150 dome cameras whose external dimensions are described exactly as "Φ148 x 111.3 mm (Ø5.8” x 4.4”)"

plain obvious that "Φ" is a mistake/typo that keeps being copied from one spec sheet to another - no point dwelling on what "Φ" should/could mean.
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