bochkor (asker) Jan 27, 2018:

Well, as you know, my goal is to have all the diacritics written out. But even if you just put a WAW, it's already a LONG U. So how could that person on Google Translate pronounce it with a short U? How would YOU pronounce it, Sara: with a short or long U?<br>
BTW, I couldn't find the word Maa'd anywhere. I have found totally different words for "vowel". So I don't know, what Maa'd means.
Regarding Harf, I found it, but it means "particle" (not vowel).

Sarah Hamed Jan 27, 2018:

Shortly, you need not to put Dammah on the top of و because it a vowel letter here (Harf Maa'd). But short Maa'd so we replace the و with U only.

bochkor (asker) Jan 27, 2018:

Dear Sara! "followed by ء or أ."
I don't see any of those, because you didn't put any diacritics on these 2 words. Even if you just mention examples, please, always include all diacritics!
When I wrote, that the U should be long, I was referring to DAMMAH WAW, not just a WAW, where you can't see, what (if any) vowel is on top of it. Because a ـُو DAMMAH WAW is a LONG U. So yes, it makes a BIG difference, whether you write those diacritics or not. I need them. Always.

Sarah Hamed Jan 27, 2018:

The U should be short vowel in سعود ، شعور but long when followed by ء or أ.

bochkor (asker) Jan 27, 2018:

Pronunciation It's also weird, how they pronounce it on:
https://translate.google.com/#en/ar/Saud

There the FATHAH is not pronounced as a clear A, but rather as AW (as in US English: raw, claw, saw, etc.) and it's pronounced long, although a FATHAH is supposed to be a short A.<br>
Then the U should be long, but they pronounce it very short.
Why?

Sarah Hamed Jan 27, 2018:

In Arabi, no scripts written above the vowel sounds ( و، ا ، ي).

bochkor (asker) Jan 27, 2018:

Sa or Su? So now we got one more vote in favor of Sa. Is this maybe a dialect issue, that in some regions they might pronounce it Suud?

bochkor (asker) Jan 27, 2018:

Sukun A previous translator wrote me, that a SUKUN is not required at the end of names and that it's even a mistake to include it. And I don't see the purpose of a second SUKUN on top of the WAW, either. So do you think, SUKUNs are even necessary in this case?

Sarah Hamed Jan 26, 2018:

U for WAW

bochkor (asker) Jan 26, 2018:

Well, it's a big difference, whether the word starts with SA- or SU-. <br>
And since WAW can be pronounced either a W or a LONG U, which one is it in this case? That's why I asked for closest pronunciation, because this is a decision, which I need YOU to make. So W or U for this WAW in this word?