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Glossary entry

Catalan term or phrase:

tancament

English translation:

unwavering dogmatism

Added to glossary by Timothy Barton
Oct 31, 2013 16:10
10 yrs ago
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Catalan term

tancament

Catalan to English Social Sciences History
En mans dels dominics, la universitat de Tortosa seguia les directius del Concili de Trento i representava l’antítesi de l’humanisme, el tancament de l’Espanya catòlica.

I can't find a word in English with the same connotations as the Catalan. Any ideas?
Proposed translations (English)
4 formalisation
4 close-mind

Discussion

Helena Chavarria Nov 5, 2013:
@Emiliano I don't recall having read 'narrow-mindedness' in a historical text, which ideally should state facts from an objective point of view.
Emiliano Pantoja Nov 5, 2013:
@Helena People coultd take offence of "narrow-mindedness" but in the same way they could do it from the original word in Catalan. It's history, we don't have to soften the facts.
Helena Chavarria Nov 4, 2013:
Emiliano I have added a note to my answer. My concern with the use of 'narrow-mindedness' stems from the fact some people could take offence.
Emiliano Pantoja Nov 4, 2013:
Maybe it’s my poor English, but I don’t see the link between the explanation and the word “formalise” you posted. I think we all understand what they want to say in Catalan but it’s difficult to express that in English. However I don’t see the need to soften the word, “tancament” in Catalan is quite negative.
Helena Chavarria Nov 4, 2013:
The Council of Trent 'formalised' the Catholic religion. After reading the sentence that comes before 'tancament', then obviously you need something that opposes 'un lloc obert'. When I posted my answer, I didn't have the further context.
Emiliano Pantoja Nov 4, 2013:
In fact it is a more diplomatic way of saying narrow-minded
By the way Helena I understand you explanation but I don't understand well it's relation with "formalisation"
Helena Chavarria Nov 4, 2013:
Yes I think that would fit well. It's just that I think not all readers would agree with 'narrow-mindededness'.
Timothy Barton (asker) Nov 4, 2013:
Another idea Unwavering dogmatism? The Oxford definition seems to fit the bill: "the tendency to lay down principles as undeniably true, without consideration of evidence or the opinions of others"
Helena Chavarria Nov 1, 2013:
Besides what they were telling me at home I based my answer on the Council of Trent, which 'reaffirmed traditional Catholic beliefs and formulated the ideals of the Counter-Reformation'. At first I thought of 'rigidity', unwavering attitude' or 'intractableness'. Catholic Spain was not open to new ideas and rejected anything that was in favour of what the Church considered 'wrong' .
Timothy Barton (asker) Nov 1, 2013:
Perhaps "reflecting the growing narrow-mindedness of Catholic Spain"?
Timothy Barton (asker) Nov 1, 2013:
The context doesn't really lend to your interpretation Helena. The previous sentence says "No hem d’imaginar la universitat com un lloc obert al coneixement, tal com és ara." I thought about "narrow-mindedness" myself, but the Catalan seems to imply a process that is lost in this translation. I.e. "L'Espanya catòlica s'estava tancant". Perhaps this is something I just have to allow to become lost in translation. I'll leave the thread open a while longer in case there are any other suggestions.

Proposed translations

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formalisation

I would use something more neutral. According to my Catalan husband (from Tortosa) 'tancament' in this context means 'enclosure', something like the establishment of the limits of the Roman Catholic Church.

The Council of Trent defined the differences between the Catholic and Protestant positions and, by formalizing the ideals, doctrines, and laws of the church, reinvigorated the Roman Catholic Church.

http://www.thenagain.info/Webchron/westeurope/CouncilTrent.h...

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Note added at 4 days (2013-11-04 19:44:59 GMT)
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This is how I initially understood it:

'In the hands of the Dominican Order, the University of Tortosa adhered to the prescriptions established by the Council of Trent, which represented the antithesis of humanism: the formalisation of Catholic Spain.'

The prescriptions established by the Council of Trent gave rise to the formalisation of Catholic Spain.

However, with more context, I understand it differently:

'We would be wrong to imagine a university as a place open to knowledge, such as it is today (because) in the hands of the Dominican Order, the University of Tortosa adhered to the prescriptions established by the Council of Trent, representing the antithesis of humanism: the inflexibility/intractableness/unwavering attitude/rigidity of Catholic Spain.
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close-mind

closed-minded / short-sighted / narrow-minded / intolerant
Peer comment(s):
neutral Tony Isaac : I think "narrow mindedness" would work better in this sentence.
3 hrs
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