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Spanish term or phrase:
vacas bravas
English translation:
fighting-bull brood cow
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Dr. Andrew Frankland
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vacas bravas
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This is obviously the female of the "toro bravo", which is traditionally translated as (Spanish) fighting bull. "Female fighting bull" obviously won't do, so I'm a bit stuck at the moment with how to get the idea across that this is the female of this particular breed. I suppose "fighting cow" would be an option but it seems to be lacking something that I can't quite put my finger on.
Just in case anyone feels offended by the question, this term comes from a book on bovine parasitology and has nothing to do with bullfighting per se.
As ever, all help will be much appreciated.
TIA,
Andy
Just in case anyone feels offended by the question, this term comes from a book on bovine parasitology and has nothing to do with bullfighting per se.
As ever, all help will be much appreciated.
TIA,
Andy
Proposed translations
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| 3 +1 | fighting cattle/cows |
Neil Ashby
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| 4 | wild cows |
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Wiki refers to the "Spanish fighting bull" or "toro de lidia" as a breed, and encompasses the females. The females are tested for their fighting qualities as a gauge of how good its offspring will be.
"For the males, this will establish if they are suitable for breeding, the bullfight, or being slaughtered for meat. The testing for the bullfight is only of their aggression towards the horse, as they cannot see a man on the ground before they enter the ring. They learn how to use their horns in tests of strength and dominance with other bulls. Due to their special aggression, these combats can lead to severe injuries and even the death of bulls at great cost to the breeder.
The females are more thoroughly tested, including by a bullfighter with his capes; hence a bull's "courage" is often said to descend from his mother.
If fit for bullfighting bulls will return to their peers. ****Cows*** passing the tienta will become mothers and slaughtered only when they are too old to bear calves."
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You could put "female toro de lidia" but who knows what a "toro de lidia" outside the profession, or is the audience only going to be professional and so they will recognise the less common name??
"For the males, this will establish if they are suitable for breeding, the bullfight, or being slaughtered for meat. The testing for the bullfight is only of their aggression towards the horse, as they cannot see a man on the ground before they enter the ring. They learn how to use their horns in tests of strength and dominance with other bulls. Due to their special aggression, these combats can lead to severe injuries and even the death of bulls at great cost to the breeder.
The females are more thoroughly tested, including by a bullfighter with his capes; hence a bull's "courage" is often said to descend from his mother.
If fit for bullfighting bulls will return to their peers. ****Cows*** passing the tienta will become mothers and slaughtered only when they are too old to bear calves."
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Note added at 21 mins (2013-09-19 10:17:26 GMT)
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You could put "female toro de lidia" but who knows what a "toro de lidia" outside the profession, or is the audience only going to be professional and so they will recognise the less common name??
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
neilmac
: They do appear in fiestas, like here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hme_wSYlZw
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Cheers Neil, BTW I passed my theory and practical first time ;) I'm now taxi number 2 for my kids.
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Comment: "I went with gallagy2's suggestion in the end."
6 hrs
wild cows
My Portuguese Journey: Bull Fighting Training
fewminutesinthelifeofhelenka.blogspot.com/.../bull-f...
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24/03/2010 - My host father explained that they train for bull fighting about twice a month. They use wild cows to train, which are gentler than bulls (or ...
Reuters Photog Gets Into a Fight With a Bull, Somehow Saves His ...
petapixel.com/.../reuters-photog-gets-into-a-fight-wit...
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16/07/2012 - This year, however, while covering the release of wild cows into the ... Can't wait until bull runs and bull fights are put out of business. such a ...
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More examples in a non-bullfighting context such as yours:
The design and construction of facilities for handling cattle
digitool.library.colostate.edu/.../DeliveryManager?pi...
The cattle handling facilities described in this paper are recommended for use with ...... If wild cows are to be handled, an extra-long dark box can be constructed. A tame ... are reducing the need for dipping cattle to eradicate external parasites.
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Profitable Farming of Beef Cows - Beef + Lamb New Zealand
www.beeflambnz.com/.../Profitable farming ...
Until lately the beef cow has been unable to show just how valuable and profitable she ...... calves are more susceptible to internal parasites than calves that are still ...... aggressive or wild cows or heifers should be culled as their behaviour will ...
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Note added at 8 hrs (2013-09-19 17:58:39 GMT)
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and some more refs in bullfighting context:
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Zafrilla, VM. *, Terrados, N.**, Tejero-González, CM. - Mediaveronica ...
www.mediaveronica.es/files/portalcontenidos/.../ecss_2013_z...
wild cows, training with wild bulls and bullfights before an audience. Previously; the bullfighter underwent a maximal exercise test on a treadmill, to get maximum ...
Course landaise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Course_landaise
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The course Landaise is an ancient form of bullfighting held in oval or .... in their early thirties since a lot of experience is necessary to dominate the wild cows.
Abstract details - ECSS-Congress
www.ecss2006.com/asp/.../ScPro1AbstractText.asp?...
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We recorded HR, in 24 situations with fierce animals divided equally into 3 types of activity: training with wild cows, training with wild bulls and bullfights with ...
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A wild cow is set loose right after each bull and it often tends to be more dangerous than the bull because of its mobility. andaluciaenfiestas.com
Y justo tras cada toro se soltará una vaca brava, que a menudo suele traer más peligro que el propio toro por su movilidad. andaluciaenfiestas.co
Note from asker:
| Sorry but I don't think this fits. Wild cows would be those living in the wild, whereas these are farmed, albeit on huge estates, to produce fighting bulls. |
Discussion
I think you can't put "fighting cow" on its own as it makes no sense and could be misinterpreted. You need to use "breeding cow/brood cow for (Spanish) fighting bull" or something like that. The other alternative, if you know the breed, is to use that and clarify cow is used to produce fighting bulls.
and heifer is the translation provided by Babylon:
vaquilla (f)
n. heifer, young cow, cow that has not had a calf.
Maybe it helps you to consider ir from another angle