Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
la disposition des masses
English translation:
massing
Added to glossary by
Sasha Barral-Robinson
Mar 25, 2010 12:29
14 yrs ago
French term
France
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la disposition des masses
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La méthode s’apparente à un curieux mélange entre un fort pragmatisme dans la disposition des masses et une richesse inépuisable dans la recherche graphique et esthétique de ces façades qui finissent par ressembler à des bas-reliefs.
The building plan:
http://www.peripheriquesarchitectes.com/peripherique.html
The Frémicourt project Paris
The building plan:
http://www.peripheriquesarchitectes.com/peripherique.html
The Frémicourt project Paris
Proposed translations
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| 4 +2 | massing |
B D Finch
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| 5 +1 | a pragmatic distribution/allocation of masses |
Christopher Crockett
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Proposed translations
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massing
Planner/planning-committee-speak, in the UK at least:
"established massing of buildings in the neighborhood. 2. One-Story Neighborhoods ... to the floor plan can affect the building massing and ..."
www.hillsborough.net/civica/filebank/blobdload.asp?BlobID=2... -
"Glasgow City Council has given detailed planning consent for 110 Queen Street, ... layouts of an appropriate scale and massing of buildings and landscaping ..."
www.glasgowarchitecture.co.uk/110_queen_street.htm -
"The massing and rhythm of the buildings ... require planning permission rear extensions will .... appearance of a conservation area, Local Planning ..."
www.lbhf.gov.uk/images/pages_from_sands_end_4_tcm21-20135.p...
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" ... spaces while the building massing shades exterior courtyards. ... World Architecture : e-architect - key buildings across the globe ..."
www.e-architect.co.uk/.../duke_medical_school_singapore.htm
"Its unique massing and configuration evolves from its internal spatial ... Buildings / photos for the Heriot Watt University Architecture page welcome: ..."
www.edinburgharchitecture.co.uk/heriot_watt_university.htm
"established massing of buildings in the neighborhood. 2. One-Story Neighborhoods ... to the floor plan can affect the building massing and ..."
www.hillsborough.net/civica/filebank/blobdload.asp?BlobID=2... -
"Glasgow City Council has given detailed planning consent for 110 Queen Street, ... layouts of an appropriate scale and massing of buildings and landscaping ..."
www.glasgowarchitecture.co.uk/110_queen_street.htm -
"The massing and rhythm of the buildings ... require planning permission rear extensions will .... appearance of a conservation area, Local Planning ..."
www.lbhf.gov.uk/images/pages_from_sands_end_4_tcm21-20135.p...
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" ... spaces while the building massing shades exterior courtyards. ... World Architecture : e-architect - key buildings across the globe ..."
www.e-architect.co.uk/.../duke_medical_school_singapore.htm
"Its unique massing and configuration evolves from its internal spatial ... Buildings / photos for the Heriot Watt University Architecture page welcome: ..."
www.edinburgharchitecture.co.uk/heriot_watt_university.htm
Peer comment(s):
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kashew
: On ProZ a year or so ago with similar context.
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Thanks kashew, however, if you mean my question on "masses baties", the context was different.
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Christopher Crockett
: Yes, "massing" refers to the volumetric aspects of the various elements of a building --or of a group of buildings. To some extent this can be determined from just looking at a building plan, but not completely. ...Yes, the visual impact of the volumes.
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Thanks Christopher. Yes, and massing of buildings can, especially when used by town planners, include visual impact.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you for your help"
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Christopher Crockett
Native in English
Specializes in field
M.A., Ph.D. Historian/Art Historian
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English, English
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a pragmatic distribution/allocation of masses
Jonathan is right about "disposition"= "arrangement/layout" --though "distribution" might be more appropriate.
David is right about "masses" referring to the the three-dimensional volumes of the architecture (which are not necessarily or completely evident from a view of just the plan) --though "masses" is a perfectly appropriate architectural term.
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"pragmatic" in the sense of "Dealing with matters in accordance with practical rather than theoretical considerations or general principles; aiming at what is achievable rather than ideal; matter-of-fact, practical, down-to-earth..."[<OED]
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient, ...logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." [<http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic ]
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"...down-to-earth." [<OED]
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient....logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." [http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic ]
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"...down-to-earth." [<OED]
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient....logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." [http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic ]
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"...down-to-earth." [<OED]
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient....logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." [http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic ]
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(to finish:) "pragmatic" = "...down-to-earth." <OED
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient....logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." <http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic
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"pragmatic" = "...down-to-earth." <OED
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient....logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." <http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic
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I am unable to finish this note, or to add another one, or to add a discussion comment. What gives?
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"pragmatic" = "...down-to-earth." <OED
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient....logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." <http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic
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"pragmatic" = "...down-to-earth." <OED
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient....logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." <http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic
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"pragmatic" = "...down-to-earth." <OED
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient....logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." <http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic
David is right about "masses" referring to the the three-dimensional volumes of the architecture (which are not necessarily or completely evident from a view of just the plan) --though "masses" is a perfectly appropriate architectural term.
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"pragmatic" in the sense of "Dealing with matters in accordance with practical rather than theoretical considerations or general principles; aiming at what is achievable rather than ideal; matter-of-fact, practical, down-to-earth..."[<OED]
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient, ...logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." [<http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic ]
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[the end of my note was, for some reason cut off, so I'll try again]
"...down-to-earth." [<OED]
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient....logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." [http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic ]
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[the end of my note was, for some reason cut off, so I'll try again]
"...down-to-earth." [<OED]
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient....logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." [http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic ]
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[the end of my note was, for some reason cut off, so I'll try again]
"...down-to-earth." [<OED]
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient....logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." [http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic ]
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(to finish:) "pragmatic" = "...down-to-earth." <OED
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient....logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." <http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic
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"pragmatic" = "...down-to-earth." <OED
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient....logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." <http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic
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I am unable to finish this note, or to add another one, or to add a discussion comment. What gives?
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Note added at 1 hr (2010-03-25 13:32:13 GMT)
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"pragmatic" = "...down-to-earth." <OED
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient....logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." <http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic
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"pragmatic" = "...down-to-earth." <OED
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient....logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." <http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic
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"pragmatic" = "...down-to-earth." <OED
or: "businesslike, commonsensical, down-to-earth, efficient....logical, matter-of-fact, practical, realistic, sober, unidealistic, utilitarian." <http://thesaurus.com/browse/pragmatic
Note from asker:
| Thanks Christopher, these were both helpful answers. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
philgoddard
: Actually Sasha didn't ask for a translation of "pragmatisme".
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No, she didn't; "pragmatic" was a freebee I just threw in (because it is not immediately what it might refer to in this context). Thanks, phil.
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