Aug 5, 2009 17:27
14 yrs ago
French term

gagnent le monde comme une inondation sournoise

French to English Other Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
There is written about a progression of a certain knowledge. The above expression is used to indicate this gradual movement.
To give some context:

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Ces vérités gagnent actuellement le monde comme une inondation sournoise ; elles filtrent ici ou là, aux points les plus éloignés les uns des autres.
On apprend fréquemment qu'il y a un nouveau foyer imbibé de ces pratiques et de ces idées, dont l'orbe s'étend lentement.

Discussion

Emma Paulay Aug 6, 2009:
There's so much you can do with this: discreet trickles to steady streams (carving the way for a river of truth)....
...gradually encroaching upon...
...stealthily spreading...

Proposed translations

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insidiously infiltrating the world

OK, this does leave out the flood, but I think that infiltration is a similar image.
Peer comment(s):

agree Jim Tucker (X) : pretty good solution; the insidiousness is explicitly taken up in the text that follows
58 mins
Thanks Jim
agree whither has fle : clear as a bell to me.
3 hrs
Thanks whither
agree George C.
13 hrs
Thanks solarstone
neutral Emma Paulay : I think infiltration is fine. You just need water to convey the message. The idea in the French isn't great - floods are not insidious because they're conspicuous by nature. I think the author meant "stealthy" by "sournois" - not anything harmful.
15 hrs
Thanks Emma, I think the water can be left out, but the stealthy spread of ideas can be harmful as it avoids open debate. (We haven't been told what the "truths" are.)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
50 mins

these truths are sweeping through the world like a flood without warning

Hello,

My try...

I hope it helps
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3 hrs

are treacherously permeating the world

A suggestion.
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4 hrs

overwhelm the world like a perfidious undertow

It's a very poetic metaphor. I like the play on over / under, and the allusion to water correlating to "inondation" as well as the unseen nature of an "undertow"– as if these thoughts taking over the world all of a sudden suck us in. But there's probably lots of good metaphors that can work here.
Note from asker:
The waves, flows and undertows are important for being able to explain the rest of the text. The suggestion you made is a real beauty.
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20 hrs

gradually spreading the world over like slowly mounting floodwaters

a variation on the theme...
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