Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
bis hin zur gezielten Manipulation
English translation:
even go as far as deliberately manipulating/distorting
Added to glossary by
macrettoc
Aug 20, 2008 13:31
15 yrs ago
German term
bis hin zur gezielten Manipulation
German to English
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Computers: Software
Excel
KONTEXT: ,,Die Achsen des Diagramms und ihre unmittelbaren Beschriftungen werden von sehr vielen Anwendern eher nachlässig behandelt. Schade, denn sie sind zentrale Gestaltungselemente und können den Aussagewert und die Aussagekraft eines Diagramms nicht nur entscheidend beeinflussen, sondern sogar, bis hin zur gezielten Manipulation, verändern.''
Still working on this lovely text (yes, being facetious! :-)). What I think the author is saying is that axes can infuence a chart's info. value and validity, "up to the point of specifically manipulating" this info., nicht wahr?
Still working on this lovely text (yes, being facetious! :-)). What I think the author is saying is that axes can infuence a chart's info. value and validity, "up to the point of specifically manipulating" this info., nicht wahr?
Proposed translations
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even go as far as deliberately manipulating/distorting
I'm with Ken along the lines of "distortion", but I typically prefer to change German nouns into verbs if possible.
In this case I would think something along the lines of:
Not only do they significantly / decisively impact the "Aussagewert = informational value?" of the diagram, but even go as far as deliberately / specifically manipulating / distorting it (said / such / the value).
In this case I would think something along the lines of:
Not only do they significantly / decisively impact the "Aussagewert = informational value?" of the diagram, but even go as far as deliberately / specifically manipulating / distorting it (said / such / the value).
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Comment: "With you on this one, SusieZ, though many thanks to Ken and Harvey for the very helpful suggestions."
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exte3nding as far as intentional manipulation
For 'manipulation' you can also read 'distortion' or 'misrepresentation' (an extension of lying with statistics to the graphic realm).
This is often done, for example, to exaggerate changes or relative values, by plotting values against a truncated vertical scale (bottom cut off) -- which is legitimate if the objective is to highlight relatively small changes and this is explicitly stated, but not so legitimate if the chart presented as though the horizontal axis is located at the zero point of the vertical axis and care is taken to avoid pointing this out.
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This is often done, for example, to exaggerate changes or relative values, by plotting values against a truncated vertical scale (bottom cut off) -- which is legitimate if the objective is to highlight relatively small changes and this is explicitly stated, but not so legitimate if the chart presented as though the horizontal axis is located at the zero point of the vertical axis and care is taken to avoid pointing this out.
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Note added at 7 mins (2008-08-20 13:38:46 GMT)
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drop the '3'
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. . . and even change it, if that is the author's intention.
This is very similar to your proposed translation but sounds a tad less accusatory.
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