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Swedish term

föreställningsvärld

Swedish to English Social Sciences Philosophy Philosophy of law
Sentence given:
"I de följande avsnitten skall jag studera hur Küng uppfattar det globala ethos’ koppling till ett religiöst sammanhang och den mer omfattande (specifika) moraliska föreställningsvärld vi här stöter på."

Discussion

Paul Lambert (asker) Apr 27, 2011:
Thank you to all, but it is time to close this one This was a tough one and I thank you all for your contributions. Some pretty heavy discussion here. Turns out the author herself has trouble with this and does not think that any of the suggestions quite fit what she is trying to convey. :( (Although, in and of themselves, I think the suggestions were well thought out and logically argued.) Thanks again.
Thomas Johansson Apr 22, 2011:
Tja, jag håller med Norstedt där, men jag håller inte med om att Platons teori skulle vara ursprunget till det svenska ordet (och för den delen inte heller att Platons ideer skulle ha gått särskilt djupt in i svenskt vardagstänkande eller ha särskilt mycket gemensamt med det heller).
Anna Herbst Apr 22, 2011:
Föreställningsvärld Thomas, jag tror att problemet ligger i vad "föreställningsvärld" faktiskt betyder på svenska. Enligt Norstedts on-line är det ett "helt system av idéer och uppfattningar hos individ el. inom viss lära e.d." och som exempel ges "den kristna föreställningsvärlden".
Denna förklaring och det faktum att "föreställning" också kan vara synonym till "idé" gör mitt förslag till engelsk översättning lättare att förstå.
Det verkar som om Platons idéer i detta fall gått så djupt in i det svenska vardagstänkandet att ursprunget glömts.

Thomas Johansson Apr 22, 2011:
Anna asked me to explain my point here:

Ok, Anna, I'm rusty about the details, but in essence Plato's theory of forms refers to a specific theory of metaphysics and epistemology (although this is a somewhat anachronistic characterization). The theory postulates a special domain of being - "eidea" or, in translation, "ideas" or "forms" - that, according to his theory, is the basis both of being as we know it and real knowledge. The forms were, he thought, only accessible through the intellect, not through perception. They were not mere psychological or imagined phenomena, as suggested by Swedish/English "ide/idea" - but real, "objective" "beings". Considered collectively and speaking loosely, these forms can be seen as constituting a "world" parallell to the world as we know it.

Swedish "föreställningsvärld", on the other hand, is a very common Swedish word, which we use frequently without referring to Plato's theory or world of forms.

Proposed translations

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imaginary world

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imaginary reality

maybe
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world view

in this context I think world view fits well
Example sentence:

A worldview is a theory of the world, used for living in the world. A world view is a mental model of reality — a framework of ideas & attitudes about the world, ourselves, and life, a comprehensive system of beliefs — with answers for a wide range o

Peer comment(s):

agree Thomas Johansson : Definitely. "Föreställningsvärld" here refers to his theory and the range of entities and concepts that are part of it. There's nothing specifically imaginary or perceptual about this.
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Thanks
neutral Anna Herbst : Could possibly be used, but corresponds better to the Swedish "världsåskådning" which is a somewhat different concept.
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I think it could be used because it is preceeded by "moraliska", in another context it wouldn't suit
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perceptual world

:o)
Peer comment(s):

agree Madeleine MacRae Klintebo
50 mins
Thank you very much!
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the world of representation

Kant, Schopenhauer (die Welt als Vorstellung)

"But the moral model, even in the originary scene and its ritual reproduction, belongs to the world of representation rather than that of reality; to seek to realize it in the world is (as Kant well understood) to commit a category error analogous to affirming the possibility of drawing a perfect circle on a blackboard."
http://www.anthropoetics.ucla.edu/views/vw259.htm
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world of Forms/Ideas

The concept of the theory of Forms/Ideas or the world of Forms/Ideas comes from Plato and is beautifully explained in the Allegory of the Cave.

The Swedish is föreställningvärld or idévärld
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idévärld

Example sentence:

Plato's theory of Forms or theory of Ideas asserts that non-material abstract (but substantial) forms (or ideas), and not the material world of change known to us through sensation, possess the highest and most fundamental kind of reality.

Peer comment(s):

agree Karin Lindqvist
1 hr
Tack Karin!
disagree Thomas Johansson : No, I must disagree, this has nothing to do with Plato's theory of forms.// Done, see discussion.
2 days 1 hr
Could you please explain your point further in a discussion entry?
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personal philosophy

The answer given by 'Sv-En Prismas stora ordbok' .
Peer comment(s):

agree Thomas Johansson : "...moral philosophy..." would be a nice option (...but "world view" is still better, I think).
1 day 22 hrs
Thank you Thomas - many answers to this rather vague term...
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world

Could be an option. The "föreställnings-" part is implicit from the context, i.e. the fact that the text discusses Kung's ideas and theory.

Another option would be simply "ideas".
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2 days 16 hrs

conception of the world

I wish to alter my contribution to: 'conception of the world'. This fits the context of the sentence and the meaning of 'föreställning'.
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field of conceptions

tycks mig stilistiskt enkelt o tydligt
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