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comunicación escrita con intervención verbal
grano de fuego
Feb 4, 2013 16:44
11 yrs ago
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Spanish term

en silencio

Spanish to English Bus/Financial Finance (general) source text from Chile
This comes from a company's Articles of Association. Here is the complete sentence: En silencio del estatuto social y de las disposiciones del Párrafo Octavo del Título Séptimo, Libro Segundo del Código de Comercio, la sociedad se regirá supletoriamente y sólo en aquello que no se contraponga con su naturaleza, por las normas aplicables a las sociedades anónimas cerradas.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 In case of omission
3 +3 in the silence of
4 +1 without prejudice
5 -1 notwithstanding
3 Where (the Articles of Association/Memorandum) are/is silent

Proposed translations

+2
36 mins
Selected

In case of omission

I understand that they are indicating what happens if they fail to consider some specific cases.

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Note added at 15 days (2013-02-20 04:24:27 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks!
Peer comment(s):
agree Billh : this is the right idea. You could also say 'in the absence of provision in....."
34 mins
Yeah, I guess there are several ways of saying that. Tks
neutral philgoddard : To me, omission implies a mistake, which I don't think is the case here. It just means "if not covered/specified by"
1 hr
Yours is a good option too.
agree Kirk Garrett Smith : Omission in the sense the statute doesn't cover some provision. I'm with "if not specified/addressed/covered by..."
7 hrs
I think both options could work. Tks.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I used Billh's suggestion: "in the absence of....," and since your suggestion is close in meaning, I am awarding the points to you. Thank you all for your comments and suggestions."
-1
18 mins

notwithstanding

'Notwithstanding the corporate bylaws'.

Rich's proposal is perfectly good, but I thought you might like an alternative. Choose the one you like best.
Peer comment(s):
neutral philgoddard : To me, this means the opposite of Rich's answer.
32 mins
disagree Billh : nope. it means in the absence of provision.
52 mins
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+3
41 mins

in the silence of

I know it sounds literal, but I found it in this thread: http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=1047011
Peer comment(s):
neutral Billh : right idea but a bit too literal. // Also, this is not correct English. On silence but not IN the silence, which is a nonsense in English.
29 mins
Thanks!
agree patinba : It works though. see Texas court doc I googled :Acadian's corporate by-laws are silent as to the provision of express authority to anyone to hire employees;
1 hr
Thanks patinba!
agree Sergio Kot : I strongly oppose "literaphobia"... :-)
1 hr
Thanks!
neutral philgoddard : I don't think most people will understand this.
1 hr
agree James A. Walsh : I agree with Phil's comment; however, I also think the Spanish used is very colloquial and, frankly, ambiguous, so think it deserves equal treatment in the English based on that.
5 hrs
Thanks!
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+1
4 mins

without prejudice

... to the corporate bylaws.

Never seen"en silencio" used in this context, but I reckon that's what they mean

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Note added at 2 hrs (2013-02-04 19:40:03 GMT)
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Without prejudice to the (nature of the) corporate bylaws and the provisions of Paragraph Eight of Heading Seven, Book Two of the Commercial Code, the regulations applicable to privately held companies and will supply any omission (therein/in such bylaws and provisions).

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Note added at 3 hrs (2013-02-04 19:52:06 GMT)
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Last "and" in the above example should be omitted.
Peer comment(s):
agree philgoddard : Yes, or you could turn it round and say "unless otherwise specified in".
42 mins
And "supletoriamente" seems redundant. Thanks, Phil :)
neutral Billh : no it means if there is no provision made in the bylaws etc.
1 hr
Fair enough! Still reckon it could be worded something like my note. Cheers Bill :)
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2 days 7 hrs

Where (the Articles of Association/Memorandum) are/is silent

Difference between Memorandum and articles of Association
Difference between Memorandum and articles of Association ... Where there is any ambiguity or where the memorandum is silent on any point, the articles ...
www.preservearticles.com/201104085066/memorandum-and... - Cached
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