água de desafio

English translation: challenge water

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Portuguese term or phrase:água de desafio
English translation:challenge water
Entered by: Paul Kozelka

21:47 Oct 16, 2008
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Science - Chemistry; Chem Sci/Eng / Microbiology
Portuguese term or phrase: água de desafio
For someone fully versant in lab techniques...I would appreciate help with this and its associated lab term (água de exposição) found in the following definitions for testing a water purifier ('test water' alone won't do, given its use in item three).
If one of these (which?) is the 'control', what is the other??
água de desafio - Água preparada a partir da água de exposição, contendo os indicadores para cada um dos ensaios a serem realizados.
água de exposição - Água de accordo com Portaria No. xxx do Ministério da Saúde.
água de ensaio microbiológico - Água potável, sem xxx ou yyy, doravante denominada água de ensaio.
Paul Kozelka
Local time: 03:06
challenge water
Explanation:
Antes mesmo de saber o número da Portaria e país de origem (BR, PT, ???), a Ms. Curiosidade-Comparativa acabou chegando no link abaixo.
Of course nao tenho certeza se o "meu" texto em português é exatamente o "seu" -- estarei eu direcionada à fonte certa, ou Saara à vista?!...

bom trabalho,
beatriz.

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http://standards.nsf.org/apps/group_public/search_view.php?d...

"This document is part of the NSF International standard development process. This document is subject to change and may be a draft and/or non-final version. Committee members may reproduce, quote from, and/or circulate this document to persons or entities outside of their organization after first providing NSF International with written notice of to whom and for what purpose this document is to be shared. FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY."
"NSF/ANSI Standard for Drinking Water Treatment Units"

(...)

água de desafio - Água preparada a partir da água de exposição, contendo os indicadores para cada um dos ensaios a serem realizados.

"3.192.1 challenge water= The water used to test the performance of a component, system, or process. The mixture of water and contaminants presented to the system for purposes of used to testing the a system for contaminant reduction claims made under this Standard."


água de exposição - Água de accordo com Portaria No. xxx do Ministério da Saúde.
"3.192.5 exposure water= Water having definitive characteristics prior to contact with a system or component(s) in extraction procedures."

água de ensaio microbiológico - Água potável, sem xxx ou yyy, doravante denominada água de ensaio.
"3.192.8 microbiologically safe water = Drinking water deemed acceptable for human consumption by an appropriate a health or regulatory agency having jurisdiction."

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Beatriz Souza
Brazil
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Summary of answers provided
3 +1water quality indicators - exposure assessment
Thais Maria Lips
3challenge water
Beatriz Souza
3challenge water
Alexandra Gouveia


Discussion entries: 3





  

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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
water quality indicators - exposure assessment


Explanation:
A suggestion :-)

Thais Maria Lips
United States
Local time: 21:06
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese, Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Patricia Fierro, M. Sc.
2 hrs
  -> Thanks Patricia
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
challenge water


Explanation:
Antes mesmo de saber o número da Portaria e país de origem (BR, PT, ???), a Ms. Curiosidade-Comparativa acabou chegando no link abaixo.
Of course nao tenho certeza se o "meu" texto em português é exatamente o "seu" -- estarei eu direcionada à fonte certa, ou Saara à vista?!...

bom trabalho,
beatriz.

===========
http://standards.nsf.org/apps/group_public/search_view.php?d...

"This document is part of the NSF International standard development process. This document is subject to change and may be a draft and/or non-final version. Committee members may reproduce, quote from, and/or circulate this document to persons or entities outside of their organization after first providing NSF International with written notice of to whom and for what purpose this document is to be shared. FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY."
"NSF/ANSI Standard for Drinking Water Treatment Units"

(...)

água de desafio - Água preparada a partir da água de exposição, contendo os indicadores para cada um dos ensaios a serem realizados.

"3.192.1 challenge water= The water used to test the performance of a component, system, or process. The mixture of water and contaminants presented to the system for purposes of used to testing the a system for contaminant reduction claims made under this Standard."


água de exposição - Água de accordo com Portaria No. xxx do Ministério da Saúde.
"3.192.5 exposure water= Water having definitive characteristics prior to contact with a system or component(s) in extraction procedures."

água de ensaio microbiológico - Água potável, sem xxx ou yyy, doravante denominada água de ensaio.
"3.192.8 microbiologically safe water = Drinking water deemed acceptable for human consumption by an appropriate a health or regulatory agency having jurisdiction."

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Beatriz Souza
Brazil
Native speaker of: Portuguese
PRO pts in category: 16
Notes to answerer
Asker: Valeu, Beatriz. Glossário completo para todos os termos relevantes. O segredo tb sendo achar sem ter que pagar! (A Norm até diz que é baseado no No. tal da NSF, só que custa $215 para ver!!) Só pra matar a curiosidade, Portaria 1469...

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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
challenge water


Explanation:
sugestão

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Note added at 16 mins (2008-10-16 22:03:32 GMT)
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Hello Paul,

The term "challenge water" is used in a lab context.

[DOC] FINAL REPORT -Spectrum Labs IncFile Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML
One using the high pH and alkalinity challenge water, and one using the low pH and alkalinity challenge water as outlined in NSF Standard Number 53, ...
www.brookwater.co.uk/Images.water.filters.cartridges/lead.r... - Similar pages



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Note added at 23 mins (2008-10-16 22:10:37 GMT)
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Here are some other examples:

Testing of SteriPEN™, a Portable Ultraviolet Light Water Purifier ...

The challenge water was created from laboratory reagent water. .... Standard and Protocol for Testing Microbiological Water Purifiers requires a minimum ...
www.steripen.com/PDF/EPA_Recipe.pdf - Similar pages

Microbiological performance of a water treatment unit designed for ...and microspheres where spiked into the challenge water at. the prescribed concentrations for one ..... Applied and Environmental Microbiology 56, 1423– 1428. ...
www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-3156.2006....



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Note added at 1 day13 hrs (2008-10-18 10:48:34 GMT)
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Apologies accepted, Paul, because none of us acts the way we wish we would all of the time.
I would also like to know that I've studied Chemistry and Biology (as many other subjects) and worked in labs in the past. :-)

Alexandra Gouveia
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:06
Works in field
Native speaker of: Portuguese
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, Alexandra, that's clearly the intuitive answer but I'm wondering if there isn't an official lab term used in both cases.

Asker: Look's like a bulls-eye to me! And água d'exposição would then be 'lab reagent water', no?

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