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Glossary entry

Polish term or phrase:

ociemniali

English translation:

people with acquired blindness//adventitiously blind

Added to glossary by Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
Jul 29, 2019 14:30
4 yrs ago
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Polish term

ociemniali

Polish to English Medical Medical (general) okulistyka
jako termin dla osób, które utraciły wzrok po 5 roku życia, w przeciwieństwie do osób niewidomych, tj. niewidzących od urodzenia lub które straciły wzrok przed 5 rokiem życia. Gugla się "people who became blind" ale to strasznie długie i niebrzmiące jest. Zna ktoś ładniejszy termin?
Proposed translations (English)
3 +1 people with acquired blindness
3 congenitally blind
2 (people who) lost vision
Change log

Aug 3, 2019 19:37: Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D. changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/560517">pikador's</a> old entry - "ociemniali"" to ""people with acquired blindness""

Discussion

pikador (asker) Aug 3, 2019:
Thank you all for the vivid discussion. I find Frank's answer most substantiated of all the ANSWERS provided thus I'll chose his reply, though I used adventitious blindness as best matching my needs which unfortunately only appeared in the comments.
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D. Jul 31, 2019:
nlpresearcher: Thank you for the statistical data in scientific literature.
geopiet: Uncle Google works in mysterious ways. Actually, I asked my daughter, who is a doctor, about the name she is familiar with, hence my answer, google notwithstanding.
geopiet Jul 31, 2019:
@ Frank i would be careful boasting these "high number" results ...
To see the real ones, just go to the last page of your query ..
nlpresearcher Jul 31, 2019:
@Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.

In the scientific literature there are 2,360 results as shown by: https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q="acquired blindness"
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D. Jul 31, 2019:
32,400 results
https://www.google.com/search?q="acquired blindness"&oq="acq...
nlpresearcher Jul 31, 2019:
@Marcin Pustkowski

Great! IMHO: Your suggested translation adventitious blindness seems to me the best one so far. It is mentioned in at least 235 scientific papers and is used very frequently in the medical/scientific domain as shown by: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q="(adventitious OR ... May I suggest you make your own answer post for this question?
nlpresearcher Jul 31, 2019:
I am still puzzled by the 5-year onset threshold mentioned in the asker’s post. Where did this exact year come from? Maybe this is because it might be a legal term rather than medical/scientific one?
nlpresearcher Jul 31, 2019:
I understand. Thank you for your kind clarification. May I then kindly ask: what would you then suggest as a preferable translation taking into account that the source word has a legal connotation rather than a medical one?
Marcin Pustkowski Jul 31, 2019:
@nlpresarcher I meant the Polish term "ociemniali", which, in my opinion, has a legal, not a medical nature. "Adventitiously blind" is the best choice in this case.
nlpresearcher Jul 31, 2019:
There are a total of 41 scientific papers which are publicly available for your kind review which mention the noun-phrase juvenile-onset blindness, none of which are concerned with legal terminology but rather which deal with only medical terminology since they are scientific by their very nature. Please have a look at: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q="juvenile-onset blindne...
nlpresearcher Jul 31, 2019:
The scientific paper entitled: Bilateral retinal detachments at birth: the osteoporosis pseudoglioma syndrome with the following text inside it: ...The osteoporosis pseudoglioma syndrome (OPS) is a rare autosomal recessive disorder characterised by severe juvenile onset osteoporosis and congenital or juvenile onset blindness. Over 40 cases have been documented but reports in the ophthalmic literature are exceedingly rare and we believe this is the first recorded case in the United Kingdom... show that this is a medical term. Source: https://bjo.bmj.com/content/bjophthalmol/85/9/1139.3.full.pd...
Marcin Pustkowski Jul 31, 2019:
I believe that is rather legal, not a medical term.
nlpresearcher Jul 31, 2019:
How about juvenile-onset blindness? Here are some examples from the scientific literature: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q="juvenile-onset bl...
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D. Jul 30, 2019:
The term adventitious, though correct, is not in common usage.
geopiet Jul 30, 2019:
Liz was the first one
Marcin Pustkowski Jul 30, 2019:
@Liz, mike, Geo Podajcie proszę tę odpowiedź, żeby zachować ją na przyszłość.
geopiet Jul 29, 2019:
"adventitiously blind" to jest to ! Both the group of totally blind persons and the group of partially sighted persons must be subdivided into the "<font color=blue>congenitally blind</font>" and "congenitally visually impaired" and ... "<font color=red>adventitiously blind</font>" and "adventitiously visually impaired" respectively, that is: <font color=blue>those who were born blind </font>or partially sighted and <font color=red>those who lost their sight, either totally or partially, in the course of their life</font>. Why is it necessary to make these distinctions? For the very simple reason that it makes a world of a difference for a person to have been normally sighted for a long time during his or her life or not! And, then again: if the onset of blindness or visual impairment came at a very early age, or in old age or at middle age the psychological and practical implications will be completely different. - http://www.de-beijer.aw/eng/blind_or_blind.html
geopiet Jul 29, 2019:
sorry Liz I missed it, somehow, in the discussion ...
mike23 Jul 29, 2019:
I think Liz may be right here. We come across these terms:

the congenitally blind [niewidomi od urodzenia] vs. the adventitiously blind [ociemniali]

ociemniały (ang. adventitiously blind) – osoba, która straciła wzrok w pewnym momencie życia. W Polsce definiuje się to jako utratę wzroku po piątym roku życia
https://books.google.pl/books?id=7TKGDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA277&lpg=P...
geopiet Jul 29, 2019:
blinded The Blinded Veterans Association (BVA) is an organization of blinded veterans helping blinded veterans.
geopiet Jul 29, 2019:
complete/permanent loss of vision Blindness and vision loss
Blindness is a lack of vision. It may also refer to a loss of vision that cannot be corrected with glasses or contact lenses.

Partial blindness means you have very limited vision.
Complete blindness means you cannot see anything and DO NOT see light. (Most people who use the term "blindness" mean complete blindness.)
People with vision that is worse than 20/200 with glasses or contact lenses are considered legally blind in most states in the United States.

Vision loss refers to the partial or complete loss of vision. This vision loss may happen suddenly or over a period of time.
liz askew Jul 29, 2019:
There is also

the newly blind
liz askew Jul 29, 2019:
For example

adventitiously blind and
the
congenitally blind

Adventitiously - definition of adventitiously by The Free Dictionary
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/adventitiously
Participants' age range was 18 to 66 years; seven were female; three were congenitally blind; eight were adventitiously blind, three of whom were newly blind ...
liz askew Jul 29, 2019:
Hi,
So what is the problem this defined group of people have with their eyes?

How does it differ to actually being blind?
pikador (asker) Jul 29, 2019:
visually impaired includes all types of blindness and sight problems, it's too broad, I need to describe a defined group of people
liz askew Jul 29, 2019:
oh,
how about

the visually impaired?
liz askew Jul 29, 2019:
www.informingfamilies.ie/inational-council-for-the-blind-of-irelan...
Translate this page
National Council for the Blind of Ireland (Irlandzka Krajowa Rada Osób Niewidomych i Ociemniałych, NCBI) to organizacja charytatywna nienastawiona na zysk, ...
pikador (asker) Jul 29, 2019:
ale wtedy nie ma różnicy między niewidomymi (the blind) i ociemniałymi (the blind). A problem w tym, że mam w artykule rozróżnienie tych dwóch 'rodzajów' niewidzenia.
liz askew Jul 29, 2019:
https://ling.pl/slownik/polsko-angielski/ociemniały

the blind
?

Proposed translations

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people with acquired blindness

Study of congenital, acquired blindness reveals new understanding of brain's early spatial development
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-01-congenital-reveals-br...
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Of the 27 children with acquired blindness, 16 (59%) had poor visual outcome. Poor visual outcome occurred in those with cardiac arrest, hypoxia, status epilepticus, intracranial hemorrhage, cerebral thrombosis, and head trauma.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1878097
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We investigated optic nerve and geniculocalcarine tract (GCT) in acquired blindness (AB) using routine cranium magnetic resonance
https://www.semanticscholar.org/topic/Blindness,-Acquired/48...
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Fiber-tract differences in people with congenital and acquired blindness
https://www.ski.org/fiber-tract-differences-people-congenita...


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The sudden loss of eyesight associated with acquired blindness has statistically been known to accompany other issues such as anxiety
https://www.visionaware.org/blog/visually-impaired-now-what/...
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It examines the various ways the module can assist students with congenital and acquired blindness, particularly with regard to the following
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-58697-7_...
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Acquired blindness was associated with relatively preserved vestibulo-ocular responses and the ability to initiate voluntary saccades and smoothly track sel
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-58697-7_...
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| Perception of blind rehabilitation services among adults with acquired blindness in Nigeria:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327404909_Perceptio...
Peer comment(s):
agree nlpresearcher : I agree.
1 day 13 hrs
Miłego dnia.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks"
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(people who) lost vision

lost vision at 5

lost vision at the age of 5

lost vision at the 5 years of age
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congenitally blind

The scientific paper:

Representation of Space in Blind Persons: Vision as a Spatial Sense? by Catherine Thinus-Blanc and Florence Gaunet from the National Center for Scientific Research
source: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/0c9f/5342c44bf0fa6419d27f68...

states the following:

(1) people who have never had any visual experience, i.e. born blind or blind from birth, are congenitally blind

(2) people who have lost their vision in early infancy are early blind

(3) people who have lost their vision after becoming an adult are late blind


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Note added at 19 hrs (2019-07-30 10:04:16 GMT)
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A list of scientific papers using this terminology: https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=("congenitally blind"...

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Note added at 1 day 15 hrs (2019-07-31 06:10:59 GMT)
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Some useful information:

The authors of the scientific paper:

Early- and Late-Onset Blind Individuals Show Supra-Normal Auditory Abilities in Far-Space

source: https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/82062406.pdf

define:

(1) early-onset blind as individuals who lost their vision before they reached 11 years of age
(2) late-onset blind as individuals who lost their sight after the age of 16 years of age

Unfortunately a threshold of 5 years of age is not mentioned in this scientific paper.


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Note added at 1 day 17 hrs (2019-07-31 08:13:41 GMT)
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The best translation thus far: <n>juvenile-onset blindness</n>, examples from the scientific literature: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q="juvenile-onset bl...

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Note added at 1 day 17 hrs (2019-07-31 08:18:48 GMT)
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How about juvenile-onset blindness? Here are some examples from the scientific literature: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q="juvenile-onset bl...
Peer comment(s):
neutral geopiet : asker wants the term for people who lost their sight later in life - https://isn.page.link/Fwp8
13 hrs
Thank you. How about juvenile-onset blindness? Here are some examples from the scientific literature: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q="juvenile-onset+blindness"
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