Aug 28, 2008 17:00
15 yrs ago
Latin term
james
protinus vive
Non-PRO
Latin to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
does this mean live for the moment. protinus being immediately. vive, to live. need an accurate translation other than carpe diem for, "live for the moment"
Proposed translations
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| 4 +2 | vive in praesens |
Nina Storey
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| 5 +1 | live on |
Joseph Brazauskas
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| 4 +1 | vive in momentum |
Luis Antonio de Larrauri
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Proposed translations
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17 mins
Nina Storey
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
16 years in medical translation
Native in: English 
Works in: Italian to English, Latin to English
Selected
vive in praesens
Hi James,
I'd go for "vive in praesens" as a better translation, rather than "immediately".
"in praesens" means for the present time/ for the moment - as used by Cicero and Ovid.
Nina
I'd go for "vive in praesens" as a better translation, rather than "immediately".
"in praesens" means for the present time/ for the moment - as used by Cicero and Ovid.
Nina
Peer comment(s):
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Luis Antonio de Larrauri
48 mins
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Thank you!
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Joseph Brazauskas
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Thank you!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
+1
8 mins
Joseph Brazauskas
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
When You Want It Done Right
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
, Spanish (Variant: Standard-Spain)
Works in: Latin to English, English to Latin, Greek (Ancient) to English, and 23 more.
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16
live on
'Protinus' means also 'onwards, continuously, constantly', not merely 'immediately, forthwith', although not in Cicero. Cf., e.g., Celsus, 8.1: summa [vertebra] protinus caput sustinet', 'The uppermost vertebrae constantly support the head'.
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-08-28 18:42:05 GMT)
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It is not clear to me that the asker is requesting English > Latin instead of Latin > English. If the former, I would suggest 'vive adsidue' or 'vive perpetuo'.
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-08-28 18:42:05 GMT)
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It is not clear to me that the asker is requesting English > Latin instead of Latin > English. If the former, I would suggest 'vive adsidue' or 'vive perpetuo'.
+1
1 hr
Luis Antonio de Larrauri
Legal, business, literature specialized
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, French to Spanish, Latin to English, and 4 more.
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4
Latin term (edited):
live for the moment
vive in momentum
This would be possible too. I follow the expression "in diem vivere", found in Cicero.
In the link below you can see someone has asked your question already, and someone proposes my same answer.
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Note added at 15 hrs (2008-08-29 08:49:48 GMT)
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(comes from response to "neutral" under):
in proximum annum: for the next year (Cicero)
in aeternum: for ever (Ovid)
in dies: day after day (Livy)
in diem: for one day (Ovid)
In the link below you can see someone has asked your question already, and someone proposes my same answer.
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Note added at 15 hrs (2008-08-29 08:49:48 GMT)
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(comes from response to "neutral" under):
in proximum annum: for the next year (Cicero)
in aeternum: for ever (Ovid)
in dies: day after day (Livy)
in diem: for one day (Ovid)
Peer comment(s):
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Joseph Brazauskas
: But isn't 'in momentum' more or less a synonym for 'protinus' in the sense of 'immediately'?/All excellent renderings.
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Not exactly. The translations of momentum I found are moment, instant, short lapse of time, minute, circumstance. Then, in + ac. is used to express direction, purpose, tendency. I have found this time related expressions (see note above):
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