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第一ｻｰﾋﾞｽｻﾎﾟｰﾄ部

English translation: Primary Services and Support Deparment / Division

06:32 Feb 12, 2002
Japanese to English translations [Non-PRO]
Tech/Engineering
Japanese term or phrase: 第一ｻｰﾋﾞｽｻﾎﾟｰﾄ部
not specified
English translation:Primary Services and Support Deparment / Division
Explanation:
The "Daiichi" is rather hard to figure. Is it that there is more than one "Services and Support Division," or is that there are several divisions and this is the first of many? Both of these options do not seem to gel. It seems unlikely that there would be more than one division like this, and in the second case, the Japanese would be different.

My guess is that the daiichi modifies the services, i.e. they are "Primary Services," in some sense. Searching on the net I find that this phrase is used in more than one way but particularly with reference to environmental services. See references below.

I think that there are sure to be more than one type of such primary services so I would go for the plural.

I also guess that this is for translation of a real department in a company (for their letter heading, or someones katagaki or whatever) so I would say it is best to stick to a literal translation without dropping words.




Selected response from:

Timothy Takemoto
Local time: 01:05
Grading comment
thanks timothysan
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2Primary Support Division
Eden Brandeis
4 +2Primary Services and Support Deparment / Division
Timothy Takemoto
4 +1Service and Support Division or Service and Support Div. 1
tom_goto
5SERVICE SUPPORT SECTION NO.1
Manish Vadehra


  

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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Primary Support Division


Explanation:
You could also go with

Support Division Number 1

if you have more than a few divisions (i.e. More than Primary Support Division and Secondary Support Division)

You may want to use Group instead of Division:

Primary Support Group
or
Support Group 1

I am of the opinion that "Service" is optional in English, but plenty of examples can be found for either case. I would make the judgement based on the exact context.



Eden Brandeis
Local time: 09:05
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 26

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mike Sekine: I second that motion by Chair Brandeis
12 mins
agree  mimichan: That makes sense to me.
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Service and Support Division or Service and Support Div. 1


Explanation:
"Service and Support Division" will be suitable, because "第一" has litte meaning in many cases. But if you want to translate "第一", I recommend to use "Service and Support Div. 1"

tom_goto
Local time: 01:05
Native speaker of: Native in JapaneseJapanese
PRO pts in pair: 22

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  mimichan: It seems like this phrase is used in so many different ways. Sometimes "Daiichi"does not refer to primary services and might just be one division of a business entity.
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Primary Services and Support Deparment / Division


Explanation:
The "Daiichi" is rather hard to figure. Is it that there is more than one "Services and Support Division," or is that there are several divisions and this is the first of many? Both of these options do not seem to gel. It seems unlikely that there would be more than one division like this, and in the second case, the Japanese would be different.

My guess is that the daiichi modifies the services, i.e. they are "Primary Services," in some sense. Searching on the net I find that this phrase is used in more than one way but particularly with reference to environmental services. See references below.

I think that there are sure to be more than one type of such primary services so I would go for the plural.

I also guess that this is for translation of a real department in a company (for their letter heading, or someones katagaki or whatever) so I would say it is best to stick to a literal translation without dropping words.







    Reference: http://www.firstenvironmental.com/services/
    Reference: http://www.teius.com/primary2.html
Timothy Takemoto
Local time: 01:05
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 65
Grading comment
thanks timothysan

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  mimichan: It is a possibility and perfectly makes sense.
1 hr
agree  Mike Sekine
9 hrs
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
SERVICE SUPPORT SECTION NO.1


Explanation:
iT IS CERTAINLY 'SERVICE SUPPORT SECTION
NO.1' AS IT IS THE FIRST SECTION ,SO WE CAN ALSO SAY'PRIMARY SERVICE SUPPORT SECTION/DIVISION'.

Manish Vadehra
India
Local time: 21:35
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in HindiHindi
PRO pts in pair: 8
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