Jul 28, 2017 09:56
6 yrs ago
Hungarian term
Very special translations
Native in: English 
Works in: Hungarian to English, English to Hungarian
Helyzet mondás
Hungarian to English
Art/Literary
Linguistics
Terminology
What is the English term for a saying (possibly even cliché) which is only used in certain situations? A professional translator asks because he is working on a document about terms, expressions etc.
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6 hrs
Tibor Pataki
Hungary
Hungary
Native in Hungarian
Hungary
b2c and b2b communications
Native in: Hungarian
Works in: German to English, Dutch to Hungarian, French to Hungarian, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
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situational phrase
szituációs kifejezés sztem
Peer comment(s):
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Ildiko Santana
: Perfect
3 hrs
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Erzsébet Czopyk
: ez meg nem magyarul van, mi az, hogy szituációs kifejezés?
14 hrs
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| disagree |
Peter Simon
: Ilyen szerintem se létezik, ld. a discussion-beli gondolataimat
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+1
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Erzsébet Czopyk
Hungary
Hungary
Native in Hungarian
Works in field
Hungary
sworn translator, linguist, DPO
Native in: Hungarian (Variant: Hungary) 
Works in: Russian to Hungarian, Hungarian to Russian, Latvian to Russian, and 10 more.
csak az adott helyzetben használható/használatos frázis, lexikalizálódott frázis/szófordulat
What is the English term for a saying (possibly even cliché) which is only used in certain situations?
There is no rule "to be used only".
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Note added at 6 mins (2017-07-28 10:03:42 GMT)
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(I am linguist)
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Note added at 7 mins (2017-07-28 10:04:38 GMT)
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(sorry I forgot an 'a' in a hurry.)
There is no rule "to be used only".
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Note added at 6 mins (2017-07-28 10:03:42 GMT)
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(I am linguist)
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Note added at 7 mins (2017-07-28 10:04:38 GMT)
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(sorry I forgot an 'a' in a hurry.)
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Katarina Peters
: Yes, Erzsi, but the asker is looking for an English equivalent
5 hrs
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Thank you, Katarina, have a nice weekend! I will add something ater today I am just busy working now.
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+1
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Katarina Peters
Canada
Canada
Native in Hungarian
&
English
Works in field
Canada
Accuracy and A1 presentation
Native in: Hungarian , English (Variant: US)
Works in: English to Portuguese, Portuguese to English, Hungarian to English, and 13 more.
Proverb
This may be too simplistic and I may be on the wrong track here, but there is a specific proverb for any given situation, among many thousands.
To exemplify, these two proverbs are not interchangeable:
curiosity killed a cat (when a child asks too many questions)
better late than never (when doing something after the deadline)
To exemplify, these two proverbs are not interchangeable:
curiosity killed a cat (when a child asks too many questions)
better late than never (when doing something after the deadline)
+1
6 hrs
Peter Simon
Netherlands
Netherlands
Native in Hungarian
&
English
Works in field
Netherlands
ATA cert.,ENHU transl.,MA,MS, Netherl.
Native in: Hungarian (Variant: Hungary) , English (Variant: British)
Works in: English to Hungarian, Hungarian to English, Dutch to Hungarian, and 2 more.
proverb, idiom, cliché, adage, (situational) phrase - depending on the situ/type of phrase
These are defined as more-or-less different in EN. The particular phrase/sentence used for a particular situation depends on the user, to which group it belongs depends on linguistics. Each phrase/sentence has a distinct meaning (if that's what's the asker referred to), but one could probably use several phrases in a situation, it's his/her choice. Out of these, proverbs (HU "közmondás"), and perhaps also adages are a bit apart, see common definitions, but they're still often used linked to situations as well as more loosely as expressing general truths.
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Note added at 6 hrs (2017-07-28 16:56:30 GMT)
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I couldn't put a finger on what the kind of situation or phrase or meaning that is requested by the asker, therefore my wide sweep. The HU doesn't help at all, I think.
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Note added at 6 hrs (2017-07-28 16:56:30 GMT)
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I couldn't put a finger on what the kind of situation or phrase or meaning that is requested by the asker, therefore my wide sweep. The HU doesn't help at all, I think.
Note from asker:
| Thanks you are absolutely right! |
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Erzsébet Czopyk
: (Bocsáss meg, benéztem a nyelvpárt, én voltam a hülye)
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Köszönöm, Erzsi! És semmi baj :) Szép nappot!
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