Badekultur

English translation: (Those keen to experience) exceptional bathroom design

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German term or phrase:	Badekultur
English translation:	(Those keen to experience) exceptional bathroom design
Entered by:	Courtney Sliwinski

19:58 Jan 9, 2010

German to English translations [PRO]
Marketing - Tourism & Travel / Hotel description

German term or phrase: Badekultur

Besonders Anhänger luxuriöser Badekultur kommen in den exklusiven Villen träumen auf ihre Kosten, denn die Bäder bestechen durch ihre individuelle Gestaltung ebenso wie durch edelsten Marmor und edle Designobjekte.

I know the term bathing culture exsists, but it just doesn't seem to fit the context here. This is for a description of a five-star resort. The translation need not be litleral, it must only fit the context and accurately describe it in English. So far I have "Devotees of luxurious bathing..." but I'm not happy with that. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Courtney Sliwinski KudoZ activity Questions: 181 (none open) (15 closed without grading) Answers: 155
Local time: 05:52

(Those keen to experience) exceptional bathroom design

Explanation:
I don't think we can use "culture" or "bathing" here as it is about the actual bathrooms where one takes a bath.
Otherwise some hype such as wow-inducing", exceptional, exclusive, glamorous etc. could be used, as in the following website :

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British Diana
Germany
Local time: 05:52

Grading comment

This fits my text the best. Thanks!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +5

(Those keen to experience) exceptional bathroom design

British Diana

3 +6

those who delight in a luxury bath experience

RegineMac

2 +5

those who love bathing in luxury

Jonathan MacKerron

4 +3

Spa culture

Michael Hariton

4 +1

here - to bathe

oa_xxx (X)

"leave it out"

Dorothy Schaps

3 +1

(a luxurious) bath style; (a luxurious) bathing style

Sven Petersson

ultimate indulgence resort/ ultimate bathing indulgence experience

Lirka

Summary of reference entries provided

Badekultur - bathing

Marga Shaw

bathing style versus bathroom design

Bernhard Sulzer

Answers

28 mins confidence:

ultimate indulgence resort/ ultimate bathing indulgence experience

Explanation:
You can say something along the lines... "fans of the ultimate indulgence [sea, bathing] resorts, may dream... or phrase it a bit differently, ' fans of ultimate bathing indulgence experience, may...depending on whether you want to stress the resort itself or the activity.

Lirka
Austria
Local time: 05:52
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English
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35 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +5

(Those keen to experience) exceptional bathroom design

British Diana
Germany
Local time: 05:52
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English
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Grading comment

This fits my text the best. Thanks!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Helen Shiner: Devotees of exceptional bathroom design - yes, I read it as being about bathrooms not spa culture in general.

1 hr

-> TAL, Helen, especially for the "devotees" idea, we're on the same wavelength here!

agree

oa_xxx (X): love/value ...design

1 hr

-> Thanks, orla !

agree

Bernhard Sulzer: sounds to me as if they are staring at the tub in awe, especially without the preceding ..to experience; // rethinking: "Badekultur" is the total "bathing style" and the design as important exhilarating part of this experience. This could go either way.

1 hr

-> Thanks, Bernhard, you're so right here!!

agree

Anne-Marie Grant (X):

3 hrs

-> Thanks, Anne-Marie !

neutral

Eleanore Strauss: yes, it appears to be about the actual bathroom, but the term connotes the total experience of luxury with the bathroom setting the standard

20 hrs

-> Thanks, ElliCom !

agree

robin25

5 days

-> Thanks, robin25 !

1 hr confidence:

"leave it out"

Explanation:
Although I agree with Michael on "spa culture" I think that in this context you could actually leave it out and just say "luxury" - something along the lines of "Luxury lovers in particular..." (bit cheesey that, but you know what I mean!)

Dorothy Schaps
Germany
Local time: 05:52
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1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

badekultur here - to bathe

Explanation:
For some reason formulated this way I'm not reminded of seaside bathing resorts - but you might not agree!

In particular, those who like to bathe in style/luxury/a luxurious ambience
(For those who like to bathe in style/luxury/a luxurious ambience, the exclusive villas will surpass/exceed all expectations/ fulfill all dreams/not disappoint with individually designed bathrooms etc..)

alternative:
The individually designed bathrooms with high quality marble and designer fittings are one feature of the exclusive villas that will delight guests who particularly value a luxurious ambience...

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or something with pamper
if you particularly value a luxurious place to pamper yourself, the exclusive villas feature...

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http://www.invitinghome.com/molding-bathroom/luxury-bathroom...

just a reference not particularly to back up my suggestion!

oa_xxx (X)
Germany
Local time: 05:52
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English

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

(a luxurious) bath style; (a luxurious) bathing style

Explanation:
:o)

Sven Petersson
Sweden
Local time: 05:52
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Swedish,

English
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4 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +5

those who love bathing in luxury

Explanation:
yet another feeble attempt at a half-way decent translation...

Jonathan MacKerron
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4 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +6

those who delight in a luxury bath experience

Explanation:
maybe?

RegineMac
United States
Local time: 20:52
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Marga Shaw

8 hrs

-> Thanks, Marga!

agree

Thayenga

10 hrs

-> Thanks, Thayenga!

agree

Rolf Keiser

14 hrs

-> Thanks, Goldcoaster!

agree

Eleanore Strauss: right on. as per other answer, one might add spa-like, with spas denoting luxury, pampering, high end accessories. This is more so in the US than in Europe, where spas generally stand for health and wellness.

15 hrs

-> Thanks, Elli!

agree

Bernhard Sulzer: this might combine the design with the experience, representing the "-kultur" part of the original quite well.

22 hrs

-> Thanks, Bernhard!

agree

rogerbaker: I like this – surely the contxt is bathrooms in individual villas, rather than in a spa?

1 day 8 hrs

-> That's how I understood it. Thanks, Roger.

5 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

Spa culture

Explanation:
This is just an inch away from "bathing" culture, but the idea of a spa connotes luxury, pampering, skin treatments, hydrotherapy, etc.., whereas "bathing" seems to primarily connote "swimming" and a seaside culture.

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Given that this is a description of the feel and quality of the interior design of the bathrooms in the villas, I do feel that the "spa" idea is still apt. The generous use of marble and other design features seems evocative of what you'd experience at a high-end spa. I don't see how bathing--either in the seashore or the soaking bath sense suits the context here.

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"Lately, bathrooms are taking over: perhaps influenced by the designer hotel phenomenon, they’re no longer discreetly tucked away into corners [...] Manufacturers, now fluent in the language of spa culture, are teaming with designers to create concept spaces where all elements – from towel bars to cabinets – are coordinated for a uniform effect.

http://www.azuremagazine.com/magazine/backissues/designfile....

Michael Hariton
United States
Local time: 05:52
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English

Reference comments

14 hrs

Reference: Badekultur - bathing

Reference information:
GE:
Der Begriff Badekultur bezieht sich auf das Baden in warmem oder kaltem Wasser, das in erster Linie der Reinigung dient, aber auch der Förderung der Gesundheit und des Wohlbefindens. Das Dampfbad, heute zur Sauna gezählt, diente ebenfalls diesem Zweck. Die Ursprünge der europäischen Badekultur liegen in der Antike, als öffentliche Badehäuser auch eine wichtige soziale Funktion hatten. In der Neuzeit ist die Badekultur eng mit der Entstehung von Kurorten mit Thermalquellen sowie Seebädern verbunden. Über private Badezimmer verfügte die große Masse der europäischen Bevölkerung erst ab dem 20. Jahrhundert. Die Bedeutung des Bades in verschiedenen Epochen war immer eng mit den jeweils herrschenden Vorstellungen von Hygiene verknüpft.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badekultur

EN:
Bathing is the immersion of the body in a fluid, usually water or an aqueous solution. It may be practiced for hygiene, religious or therapeutic purposes or as a recreational activity.
Some spa facilities provide bathing in various other liquids such as chocolate or mud. There have been examples of bathing in champagne, milk, baked beans and all manner of other substances. The intentional exposure of the body to any agent may be considered bathing, for example to sunlight (sunbathing).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathing

Badekultur
Ein paar Bahnen im Schwimmbad, Kurbaden im Thermalwasser oder der Sprung ins salzige Meer - Badekultur ist vielfältig und erfrischt Leib und Seele. Als es noch nicht in jeder Wohnung ein Badezimmer gab, waren öffentliche Wannenbäder heiß begehrt, und auch heute liegt Baden im Trend bei Jung und Alt: in der eigenen Wanne, im Schwimmbad, Kurbad, Strandbad bis hin zum modernen Badevergnügen im Wellness- oder Spaßbad. ...
http://66.102.9.132/search?q=cache:Ez2xvPExQoQJ:www.planet-w...

History Of The Bath
Since the beginning of time, the art of bathing in water has been essential to one's good health and peace of mind. As early as the third century, bathing emporiums quickly became the fashion. The Greeks and Romans were the leaders in erecting many elaborate, expensive bathhouses in which they could conduct business, gossip with friends, eat, drink, or arrange sexual liaisons. Some public baths were so grand that they could easily contain lecture halls, art galleries, meditation rooms, and prayer stalls. As well there were always numerous separate enclosures for "private" business.
http://66.102.9.132/search?q=cache:MWafkau_MoAJ:www.pureinsi...

Marga Shaw
United Kingdom
Does not meet criteria
Native speaker of: German

1 day 3 hrs peer agreement (net): +1

Reference: bathing style versus bathroom design

Reference information:
this is my first entry again (unhidden, and to be fair, as a reference only)

After reading the various comments, I agree "Badekultur" does relate to the whole bathing style/experience.
The design can certainly (and here it is) a big part of that style/experience. It depends what the hotel wants to focus on - the experience/style or the design.

Luxurious bathing style or luxury-bath aficionados would be two add-on suggestions.

Here"s that previous entry:

bathing (experience)

Explanation:
bathing culture is probably to big a concept for this context

those who are devoted to/are looking for luxurious bathing
...to a/for a luxurious bathing experience

aficionados of luxurious bathing

http://beauty.iloveindia.com/body-care/bathing.html
luxurious bathing
Making the right kind of arrangements in the bathroom and adding the right kind of accessories can go a long way in making your bath not only enjoyable, refreshing and soothing, but luxurious as well. In the following lines, we have listed the best tips for luxurious bathing, which will ensure the perfect beauty and a really beautiful body for you.

http://books.google.com/books?id=nzJLIYGENzQC&pg=PA76&lpg=PA...

aficionados of luxurious bathing

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PS: luxurious bathing style was previously suggested by Swen.

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Note added at 1 day3 hrs (2010-01-10 23:34:40 GMT)
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...Sven, sorry.

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Note added at 1 day19 hrs (2010-01-11 15:49:05 GMT)
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corr.: ...to*o* big a concept

Bernhard Sulzer
United States
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Works in field
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 20

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