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Bildungsbuergertum

English translation: middle-class intellectuals

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German term or phrase:Bildungsbürgertum
English translation:middle-class intellectuals
Entered by: Kim Metzger

16:10 Oct 12, 2004
German to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Other / Vocabulary
German term or phrase: Bildungsbuergertum
Mag sein, daß ich zu schwache Woerterbuecher verwende: Wie kann ich 'Bildungsbuergertum' am besten ins Englische übersetzen? So, dass es nicht gekuenstelt klingt, wie etwa 'educational middle class' kuenstlich wirkt?
Richard Krebs
middle class intellectuals/intelligentsia
Explanation:
Bildungsbürgertum
besonders in Deutschland einflußreiche besitzlose Bürgerschicht, die sich durch Wissenschaft und Staatsdienst auszeichnete und Einfluß gewann (Lehrer, Professoren, Ärzte, Rechtsanwälte, " Akademiker", Künstler). Bürgertum, Besitzbürger
http://www.sociologicus.de/lexikon/lex_soz/a_e/bildungb.htm

the (traditionally educated) middle-class intellectuals

http://ndict.leo.org/archiv.ende/2003_10/11/20031011233732e_...
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Kim Metzger
Mexico
Local time: 12:14
Grading comment
Dank an alle!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +4middle class intellectuals/intelligentsia
Kim Metzger
3 +2educated bourgeoisie
Olaf Reibedanz
3 +2cultured middle class/ educated middle class
Renate FitzRoy
4 +1Bildungsbürgertum
Susanne Rindlisbacher


Discussion entries: 2





  

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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
middle class intellectuals/intelligentsia


Explanation:
Bildungsbürgertum
besonders in Deutschland einflußreiche besitzlose Bürgerschicht, die sich durch Wissenschaft und Staatsdienst auszeichnete und Einfluß gewann (Lehrer, Professoren, Ärzte, Rechtsanwälte, " Akademiker", Künstler). Bürgertum, Besitzbürger
http://www.sociologicus.de/lexikon/lex_soz/a_e/bildungb.htm

the (traditionally educated) middle-class intellectuals

http://ndict.leo.org/archiv.ende/2003_10/11/20031011233732e_...


Kim Metzger
Mexico
Local time: 12:14
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 45
Grading comment
Dank an alle!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  sonja29 (X)
9 mins
agree  writeaway: has a familiar ring to it
15 mins
agree  Norbert Hermann
16 mins
agree  Jo Mayr
17 mins
neutral  Renate FitzRoy: sounds a bit too "intellectual" it's juicier, including enjoying the arts...
20 mins
  -> Wish we knew the register needed.
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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
educated bourgeoisie


Explanation:
:-)

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Note added at 5 mins (2004-10-12 16:15:54 GMT)
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http://www.staff.city.ac.uk/andy.denis/research/thesis/07.ht...

This reconciliation is to be achieved in Keynes’s view by the universal class, the **educated bourgeoisie**, and, in particular, by the extra-parliamentary state which it will build, based around a board of national planning linking all the enterprises of the country to the central bank.

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Note added at 7 mins (2004-10-12 16:17:34 GMT)
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Or rather: \"EDUCATED MIDDLE CLASS\" (much more common)

Olaf Reibedanz
Colombia
Local time: 13:14
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Norbert Hermann: yes, EDUCATED MIDDLE CLASS
20 mins
agree  sonja29 (X)
4 hrs
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36 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
cultured middle class/ educated middle class


Explanation:
both have a positive ring to it. If you want to sound more ironic, you could talk about the obsession of the middle class with education.


Renate FitzRoy
Local time: 19:14
Native speaker of: German

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Johanna Timm, PhD
14 mins
agree  sonja29 (X)
3 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Bildungsbürgertum


Explanation:
leave as is and give any of the anwerers' explanation in parentheses

but rather as actively remaking their own culture
as part of a broader reshaping of German Bildungsbürger culture to include ...
www.stanford.edu/dept/HPST/TimLenoir/ Publications/Lenoir_IntroInstitutingScience.html

... there was potential for the great national novel, to be read by the readers of “higher” German literature, the educated class or Bildungsbürger, the core ...
www.camden-house.com/pdfs/comptmann2.pdf

After all, Bildung never promised human perfection and the Bildungsbürger,
educated Germans, are better than their reputation. ...
ah.brookes.ac.uk/languages/staff/hahn/hhproflect.html

Susanne Rindlisbacher
Portugal
Local time: 19:14
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Renate FitzRoy
1 hr
  -> Obrigada, Renate
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