wachsen nicht ins Holz

English translation: no heartwood growth/no heartwood formation

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German term or phrase:	wachsen nicht ins Holz
English translation:	no heartwood growth/no heartwood formation
Entered by:	Catherine Atkinson

12:31 Jul 7, 2014

German to English translations [PRO]
Science - Forestry / Wood / Timber / tree conservation and replantations

German term or phrase: wachsen nicht ins Holz

Any suggestions for "wachsen nicht ins Holz" in a specialist article on conservation issues in historic parks and gardens?
"Mittlerweile 20 bis 30 Jahre alte Nachpflanzungen der Stieleichen wachsen nicht ins Holz, ..."
I've come up with "Replantations of English oaks, meanwhile 20-30 years old, have not grown woody ..."

Catherine Atkinson KudoZ activity Questions: 1 (none open) Answers: 5
Local time: 17:21

no heartwood growth/no heartwood formation

Explanation:
http://tinyurl.com/m92fhsl

Means that the tree does not develop the hard core (heartwood) that provides stability.

The heartwood is in the middle of the trunk and provides structural stability, this is surrounded by the sapwood that transports nutrients and this is, in turn, protected by the bark.

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Note added at 1 hr (2014-07-07 14:16:32 GMT)
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@Phil

Although they are both kinds of wood (a term usually applied to felled and processed timber in the forestry industry), there is an enormous difference between heartwood and sap wood

Heartwood is dead and has been transformed into hard wood and, in a healthy tree, grows ring by ring every year as the year's sapwood transforms into heartwood.

In contrast, the sapwood is alive and growing as long as the tree is healthy (the transformation takes place in winter, when the growth period is at a standstill).

This is what appears not to be happening in the trees mentioned in the question.

A mature tree needs the heartwood to stand up to wind and weather. This is the hard wood at the centre of the tree. A tree trunk completely of sapwood is what is generally known, logically enough, as a sapling.

Sapwood is porous to transport nutrients from the leaves to the roots and plays no particular role in the stability and resistance of the tree.

As it is also relatively soft and porous, it is more open to attack from insects boring their way through the bark and to nibbling by deer.

There are various stages or phases in the growth of a tree through the season. Basically, these are leafing, rooting, fruiting and the formation of heartwood.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2014-07-07 14:54:19 GMT)
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Sapwood is porous... should read "leaves to the roots and from the soil, via the roots, to the branches and twigs..."

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Note added at 5 hrs (2014-07-07 17:44:05 GMT)
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BTW:
heart wood = Kernholz
sapwood = Splinthholz

Another term for heartwood formation = Kernholzbildung is Verkernung

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Note added at 5 hrs (2014-07-07 18:02:07 GMT)
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Clicked too soon - Verkernung describes both natural aging of the the Splintholz/sapwood to form heartwood as well as heartwood formation as a result of injury or damage caused by, for example, insects or frost.

Here's a very technical, German language report with quite a lot about Kernholzbildung:
http://tinyurl.com/oq9tazu

(Seite 24 (27 von 94)

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Note added at 19 hrs (2014-07-08 08:04:21 GMT)
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BTW: it can also mean do not develop branches/do not branch/do not develop full crowns".

This would make good sense in the context of landscape gardening/parkland management, where full crowns serve a particular purpose in the historic landscaping concept.

Selected response from:

Yorkshireman
Germany
Local time: 17:21

Grading comment

Thanks for your comments. It sounds like a good explanation.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

3 +1

(the trees) form wood slowly

Michael Martin, MA

3 +1

no heartwood growth/no heartwood formation

Yorkshireman

are not turning into trees

Lancashireman

have not properly/firmly taken root/have not grown (tall)

Ramey Rieger (X)

Summary of reference entries provided

Definition

Johanna Timm, PhD

Discussion entries: 3

Answers

32 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

(the trees) form wood slowly

Explanation:
or don't form wood fast enough. In other words, they don't grow as fast as expected.

Reference: http://books.google.com/books?id=MNlMAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA145&lpg=P...

Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 11:21
Native speaker of:

German,

English
PRO pts in category: 4

Notes to answerer

Asker: The example you quote, Michael, is somewhat dated (1859), but "form wood" or here "hardly form wood" sounds convincing.

48 mins confidence:

are not turning into trees

Explanation:
Tundra Shrubs Turn into Trees as Arctic Warms
http://www.livescience.com/20704-arctic-tundra-trees-shrubs....

They are remaining stunted and spindly.

OR, as Phil suggests:
they are not turning woody

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Note added at 55 mins (2014-07-07 13:27:07 GMT)
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Ambiguity of EN 'form wood': Holz bilden OR Wald bilden

Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:21
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 24

55 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

no heartwood growth/no heartwood formation

Yorkshireman
Germany
Local time: 17:21
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 32

Grading comment

Thanks for your comments. It sounds like a good explanation.

22 hrs confidence:

have not properly/firmly taken root/have not grown (tall)

Explanation:
When trees find the source of water in the Earth that enables them to take root firmly and grow into "real" trees, they become viable sources of wood. Oak is a slow growing tree, but a twenty to thirty year old oak should stant at least twenty feet tall.

Ramey Rieger (X)
Germany
Local time: 17:21
Native speaker of: English

Reference comments

4 hrs

Reference: Definition

Reference information:
ins Holz wachsen=ins Holz treiben=übermäßige Holzbildung entwickeln
http://tiny.cc/m7ymix

Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Works in field
Native speaker of:

German
PRO pts in category: 24

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