Penat-Zuckerarbeiten

English translation: penidia

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German term or phrase:Penat-Zuckerarbeiten
English translation:penidia
Entered by: Alison Kirkland

15:17 Feb 22, 2010
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Cooking / Culinary / confectionary (historical)
German term or phrase: Penat-Zuckerarbeiten
"die kostbaren Penat-Zucker arbeiten"
Refers to docorative spun-sugar creations on 18th -century banqueting tables. But why "Penat" sugar? I can't find this anywhere.
Alison Kirkland
Local time: 15:57
penidia
Explanation:
In diesen Referenz steht der lateinische Name:
http://books.google.com/books?id=-BhpdAKC9jkC&pg=PT201&lpg=P...


http://books.google.com/books?id=0QTrAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA154&lpg=P...

http://www.gourmetbritain.com/encyclo_entry.php?item=3884

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http://www.kraeuter.ch/_texte/_zuckerpenid.htm

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In diesem Buch http://books.google.com/books?id=XM05AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA143&lpg=P...
bittet eine Tochter ihren vVter, ihr einen Zuckerpenat gegen Husten zu schicken.
Das wuerde dann damit zusammenpassen, dass ein Zuckerpenat eine Zuckerstange ist, wie in der Referenz zu Gourmet Britain beschrieben.

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Here is another interesting link about "The art of confectionery"
http://www.historicfood.com/The Art of Confectionery.pdf

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If when the melted sugar has partially solidified, but while it is yet soft, it be hung on a hook and rapidly and repeatedly drawn out, it becomes opake and white. This pulled sugar was formerly termed sugar penides (saccharum penidium).

http://www.henriettesherbal.com/eclectic/pereira/saccharum.h...

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Here is a link to Nostradamus' cookbook how to make penides:
http://allusional.info/cookNostr/index.php?pg=67
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1Penat, like the Malaysian town?
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Penat, like the Malaysian town?


Explanation:
OK, it's a guess, but with Penat being in a tropical "exotic" location on Borneo, might it have been a sugarcane growing location and the name applied to the quality or type of sugar that came from there?

As I say, only a guess, but the link talks about sugarcane growth in Java, but includes Borneo, so ...


    Reference: http://www.springerlink.com/content/bxur95500l1351rn/
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penidia


Explanation:
In diesen Referenz steht der lateinische Name:
http://books.google.com/books?id=-BhpdAKC9jkC&pg=PT201&lpg=P...


http://books.google.com/books?id=0QTrAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA154&lpg=P...

http://www.gourmetbritain.com/encyclo_entry.php?item=3884

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http://www.kraeuter.ch/_texte/_zuckerpenid.htm

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-02-22 16:50:08 GMT)
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In diesem Buch http://books.google.com/books?id=XM05AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA143&lpg=P...
bittet eine Tochter ihren vVter, ihr einen Zuckerpenat gegen Husten zu schicken.
Das wuerde dann damit zusammenpassen, dass ein Zuckerpenat eine Zuckerstange ist, wie in der Referenz zu Gourmet Britain beschrieben.

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-02-22 16:54:29 GMT)
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Here is another interesting link about "The art of confectionery"
http://www.historicfood.com/The Art of Confectionery.pdf

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-02-22 16:56:27 GMT)
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If when the melted sugar has partially solidified, but while it is yet soft, it be hung on a hook and rapidly and repeatedly drawn out, it becomes opake and white. This pulled sugar was formerly termed sugar penides (saccharum penidium).

http://www.henriettesherbal.com/eclectic/pereira/saccharum.h...

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-02-22 17:06:53 GMT)
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Here is a link to Nostradamus' cookbook how to make penides:
http://allusional.info/cookNostr/index.php?pg=67


Sabine Akabayov, PhD
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Reference information:
Here's an example of its usage in an old German document.
http://tinyurl.com/ydw67xq

You might want to consider asking your question here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/non_current_German/

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