Sep 17, 2011 11:48
12 yrs ago
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German term
in Personalunion und Bürogemeinschaft geführt
German to English
Law/Patents
Business/Commerce (general)
company management
Sie (Die Unternehmen) werden derzeit in Personalunion und Bürogemeinschaft geführt.
For information it also says: Die Firmen YY und ZZ kooperieren derzeit auf dem XX Markt im Bereich der Entwicklung, Produktion und des Vertriebes (einschließlich der Lizenznahme und -vergabe von/oder durch YY und ZZ) von Sitzen jeglicher Art.
Does this mean they have the same directors and office space? How can I put this in English?
For information it also says: Die Firmen YY und ZZ kooperieren derzeit auf dem XX Markt im Bereich der Entwicklung, Produktion und des Vertriebes (einschließlich der Lizenznahme und -vergabe von/oder durch YY und ZZ) von Sitzen jeglicher Art.
Does this mean they have the same directors and office space? How can I put this in English?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | with shared staff and offices |
Yasdnil1
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| 4 -1 | managed in personal union and with shared offices |
Alexander Schleber (X)
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References
| Info |
Kim Metzger
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Proposed translations
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with shared staff and offices
Personal in the sense of personnel, not personal. The two companies have either poooled their staff and offices (more likely), or jointly paid for shared ones. So this is an unofficial joint venture (do not translate as that though!) The staff and the rent/charges for the office space is still contractually with one or other company, but they are used for the purposes of the common activity.
Note from asker:
| This seems to be a good take on the German. I wasn't happy with the personal union bit. Sounds awfully unenglish |
3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "only executive personnel, I think"
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44 mins
Alexander Schleber (X)
Belgium
Native in German
&
English
Specializes in field
Related KudoZ points
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256
managed in personal union and with shared offices
Personalunion = personal union
Bürogemeinschaft = shared offices
Bürogemeinschaft = shared offices
Reference comments
1 hr
Kim Metzger
Mexico
Mexico
Native in English
Specializes in field
Mexico
Committed to Quality and Service
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: German to English
Related KudoZ points
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834
Reference:
Info
A personal union is the combination by which two or more different states have the same monarch while their boundaries, their laws and their interests remain distinct.[1][2] It should not be confused with a federation which is internationally considered a single state. Nor is it to be confused with dynastic union, where the union can be under a dynasty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_union
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/human_resources/...
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/business_commerc...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_union
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/human_resources/...
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/business_commerc...
Note from asker:
| I agree with your comments and have now revised translation to: The two companies currently have the same director(s) and share offices. |
Discussion
Basically people wearing more than one "hat".
I have never seen this refer to staff, usually it is senior management, supervisory board members, key personnel, etc. holding positions in both companies.
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1226237
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1901750