Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
auf Block ziehen
English translation:
with stick fully retracted
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Mar 24, 2013 16:12
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German term
auf Block ziehen
German to English
Tech/Engineering
Automotive / Cars & Trucks
This phrase comes up twice in a presentation about a hydraulics control system where they are demonstrating the product using a model digger arm (including the previous two sentences for context):
XXX steht für Lastunabhängigkeit und soziale Volumenstromverteilung. So löst der gleiche Fahrbefehl bei unterschiedlichen Lasten dennoch die gleiche Maschinenreaktion aus. Wir zeigen Ihnen das, indem wir Ausleger und Stiel heben und bei der Wiederholung den Stiel auf Block ziehen. Fahrer hebt Ausleger u. Stiel, anschließend gleiche Bewegung mit Stiel auf Block.
My translation so far:
XXX stands for load-independent movements and social volume flow rate distribution. This means that the same command carried out for different loads will trigger the same machine reaction. We will demonstrate this by lifting the boom and stick and then carrying out the action again but with the stick ?? The driver lifts the boom and stick and then performs the same movement with the stick ??
Thanks very much in advance for any help with this!
Best,
Jacqueline
XXX steht für Lastunabhängigkeit und soziale Volumenstromverteilung. So löst der gleiche Fahrbefehl bei unterschiedlichen Lasten dennoch die gleiche Maschinenreaktion aus. Wir zeigen Ihnen das, indem wir Ausleger und Stiel heben und bei der Wiederholung den Stiel auf Block ziehen. Fahrer hebt Ausleger u. Stiel, anschließend gleiche Bewegung mit Stiel auf Block.
My translation so far:
XXX stands for load-independent movements and social volume flow rate distribution. This means that the same command carried out for different loads will trigger the same machine reaction. We will demonstrate this by lifting the boom and stick and then carrying out the action again but with the stick ?? The driver lifts the boom and stick and then performs the same movement with the stick ??
Thanks very much in advance for any help with this!
Best,
Jacqueline
Proposed translations
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| 2 | with stick fully retracted |
Bernd Runge
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| 3 | puts it on the block. |
Andrew John Broadhurst
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puts it on the block.
Shame that there is no video available. (-;
"Driver" should be "machine operator", I feel, unless we are talking about a crane. I really need more context as my experience in operating hydraulic machinery is restricted to cranes, shears and presses. However, I do feel that there is a strong indication that the "digger arm" is being used to put the stick (shaft? arm?) on a block (of something). It is important that such an hydraulic system works smoothly under all loads and putting something on a block without jars and possible damage is extremely important.
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Note added at 14 hrs (2013-03-25 06:42:54 GMT)
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I like what Edwin says. The reference to "block and tackle" is good as it has to do with the maritime expression "chockablock" that indicates that the block and tackle (e.g. raising the gaff on a sailing ship) have been pulled to the end of the run and the two blocks are adjacent to each other. The gaff (in this instance) cannot be raised further. However, I do not see the relevance in this case as it is all about an hydraulics control system. What could be happening is that the first movement of the joystick by the machine operator raises the boom and stick together and a repeated movement of the joystick withdraws or extends the boom to the end of its "run". I, too feel that "soziale" should not be translated as "social" but rather as "communal", which would make more sense if you were to accept the explanation of a dual-purpose joystick. The word "rate" is not applicable as there is no German in the text to require it.
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Note added at 14 hrs (2013-03-25 06:48:04 GMT)
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Thus, an example sentence might be: "The machine operator raises the boom and stick with one movement and by repeating the movement extends/withdraws the boom to the end of its run."
"Driver" should be "machine operator", I feel, unless we are talking about a crane. I really need more context as my experience in operating hydraulic machinery is restricted to cranes, shears and presses. However, I do feel that there is a strong indication that the "digger arm" is being used to put the stick (shaft? arm?) on a block (of something). It is important that such an hydraulic system works smoothly under all loads and putting something on a block without jars and possible damage is extremely important.
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Note added at 14 hrs (2013-03-25 06:42:54 GMT)
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I like what Edwin says. The reference to "block and tackle" is good as it has to do with the maritime expression "chockablock" that indicates that the block and tackle (e.g. raising the gaff on a sailing ship) have been pulled to the end of the run and the two blocks are adjacent to each other. The gaff (in this instance) cannot be raised further. However, I do not see the relevance in this case as it is all about an hydraulics control system. What could be happening is that the first movement of the joystick by the machine operator raises the boom and stick together and a repeated movement of the joystick withdraws or extends the boom to the end of its "run". I, too feel that "soziale" should not be translated as "social" but rather as "communal", which would make more sense if you were to accept the explanation of a dual-purpose joystick. The word "rate" is not applicable as there is no German in the text to require it.
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Note added at 14 hrs (2013-03-25 06:48:04 GMT)
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Thus, an example sentence might be: "The machine operator raises the boom and stick with one movement and by repeating the movement extends/withdraws the boom to the end of its run."
Example sentence:
We will demonstrate this by raising the boom and the stick/shaft and by the repetition put the stick/shaft on the block.
The machine operator raises the boom and the stick/shaft and uses the same movement to put the stick/shaft on the block.
Note from asker:
| Thanks very much for your help - really useful. I have asked the client if there is a video available already in fact, as there are other sections that certainly could do with clarification. Your comments regarding the translation of 'Fahrer' and, more importantly, 'soziale' I completely agree with. They are however both terms from the client's termbase/TM (social volume flow rate distribution has been used as the translation for a couple of years, but I will certainly flag it to the client). Once again, thanks for your thorough and detailed answers. Really helpful. Kind regards, Jacqueline |
Discussion
Was mir viel mehr Sorgen bereiten würde, wäre die sprachliche Entgleisung mit social flow oder sozialer Volumenstromverteilung. Selbst bei fortschrittlichster AI ist die soziale Komponente noch weit entfernt, weshalb die 'soziale Verteilung' bei einer Load-Sensing-Hydrauliksteuerung völliger Quatsch ist. Maschinen(elemente) sind nicht sozial, selbst dann nicht, wenn der technische Redakteur sich oder das Produkt vielleicht sprachlich etwas abheben möchte ...
I think it comes from the idea of a "block and tackle," the block being the part that holds the pulleys: "auf Block ziehen" would therefore mean to pull the load all the way to the block, that is, as far as it will go. Not sure if that's the sense here, though, as excavators are not really my field.
BTW, I don't really see what that "soziale" is doing in there: using "social" to describe "flow rate distribution" in English sounds very wrong to me.