Petersburger Hängung

English translation: salon hang

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German term or phrase:Petersburger Hängung
English translation:salon hang
Entered by: Helen Shiner

11:37 Aug 19, 2009
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
German term or phrase: Petersburger Hängung
wie würde man in Englisch "Petersburger Hängung" übersetzen. Es ist eine Art Bilder an einer Wand verteilt aufzuhängen, wurde im Zarenreich gemacht und heißt deshalb so.

(The Goethe Institut calls it Petersburg hanging. Is that correct?)
njbeckett
Germany
Local time: 18:28
salon hang
Explanation:
As per my refs posted elsewhere on this page and the further information provided by Johanna. Please note the salon hang dates from the same period and might loosely be termed Victorian. This term is very familiar to me as an art historian and former student of museology. I have never heard of the mosaic hang, though of course do not dispute its use. If the GER text is using such a term, I could only presume an informed readership, or they would instead use something like Stephen's suggestion. Hopefully it is possible to tell from the context.

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Note added at 28 days (2009-09-16 12:48:44 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks for the points, njbeckett
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Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:28
Grading comment
Difficult to decide here. Thanks to everyone.
3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4...hung wall-to-wall...
Stephen Reader
3 +1salon hang
Helen Shiner
3Peterburg hanging
Elsje Apostel
Summary of reference entries provided
"salon hang" as per Helen's suggestion:
Johanna Timm, PhD

Discussion entries: 12





  

Answers


2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Peterburg hanging


Explanation:
I'd say the institut is correct

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Note added at 2 uren (2009-08-19 14:12:23 GMT)
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Peterburg of course, sorry

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Note added at 2 uren (2009-08-19 14:12:48 GMT)
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Petersburg

Elsje Apostel
Belgium
Local time: 18:28
Native speaker of: Dutch

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Stephen Reader: Never encountered it in native-Anglo-Sax. yet (which doesn't mean it doesn't exist, of cse)
10 hrs
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14 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
...hung wall-to-wall...


Explanation:
As a further alternative to Helen and Johanna's 'floor-to-ceiling' (which is instantly widely meaningful and literally more precise than wall-to-wall as the works referred to probably aren't on the floor as in 'w.-to-w. carpeting'...) or 'salon hang'; as you say, the latter presuming the readers' familiarity with the salon/ C19 hanging trad.; or it's elaborated on in the text. 'Wall to wall' would intimate the cramming, as would 'floor to ceiling'.

Example sentence(s):
  • The exhibition space was crammed wall-to-wall with miscellaneous works, salon-fashion...
Stephen Reader
Local time: 18:28
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 115

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Helen Shiner: agree as a possibility, but I just wonder whether it would match the more informed tone of the GER. Not that we have much to go on.
6 hrs
  -> Thanks, Helen. Yes, tone shd match, of course. Just made my e-Langenschdt addendum based on this question.
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20 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
salon hang


Explanation:
As per my refs posted elsewhere on this page and the further information provided by Johanna. Please note the salon hang dates from the same period and might loosely be termed Victorian. This term is very familiar to me as an art historian and former student of museology. I have never heard of the mosaic hang, though of course do not dispute its use. If the GER text is using such a term, I could only presume an informed readership, or they would instead use something like Stephen's suggestion. Hopefully it is possible to tell from the context.

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Note added at 28 days (2009-09-16 12:48:44 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks for the points, njbeckett

Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:28
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 275
Grading comment
Difficult to decide here. Thanks to everyone.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Johanna Timm, PhD: almost forgot to agree here:-)
4 days
  -> Thanks, Johanna
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Reference comments


8 hrs peer agreement (net): +2
Reference: "salon hang" as per Helen's suggestion:

Reference information:
Petersburger Hängung: http://shortify.com/9191
Salon Hang: http://shortify.com/9192


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Note added at 14 hrs (2009-08-20 01:57:42 GMT)
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"Die Petersburger Hängung bezeichnet eine besonders enge Reihung von Gemälden. Häufig reichen diese bis an die Decke, die Rahmen der Werke hängen dicht beieinander.

Hintergrund

Die Bezeichnung geht auf die üppig behängten Wände der Sankt Petersburger Eremitage zurück.

Sie bringt eine veränderte Intention bei der Ausstellung von Kunstwerken zum Ausdruck, die sich im Lauf der Geschichte vollzogen hat: Die Petersburger Hängung zielt darauf ab, den Betrachter durch die schiere Menge der versammelten Kunstwerke zu beeindrucken. Objekt der Bewunderung ist letztlich nicht das einzelne Bild, sondern derjenige, der über die Mittel verfügt, eine große Kunstsammlung zusammenstellen zu können.

Demgegenüber lässt die heute gebräuchliche, weitaus sparsamere Hängung von Bildern das Einzelkunstwerk (und den Künstler) stärker hervortreten."
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petersburger_Hängung

"The most commonly used professional layouts for hanging art are the Salon, Paris, Totem, Mosaic, Series and Asymmetrical Hangs.
[...]Salon Hang
Select a group of art works with a common theme such as colour, medium, artist, subject matter or even frame type. The art works need to be of different sizes and can be centred or lined up above each other and next to each other. Spacing between the art works should be kept consistent to avoid the presentation appearing too random."
(includes picture of salon hang)
http://shortify.com/9193

Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 71

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Stephen Reader: (dep. on tone/context, existing elaboration/target readership). LG, Johanna!
6 hrs
agree  Helen Shiner: Thanks, Johanna - confirms my hunches.
12 hrs
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