Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

aumônier juif (etc.)

English translation:

Jewish (etc.) chaplain

Added to glossary by Tony M
Jan 9, 2014 09:25
10 yrs ago
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French term

aumônier juif

Non-PRO French to English Social Sciences Religion in a text concerning prisons
If an aumônier is a chaplain (per Larousse) what is an aumônier juif ou musulman please?
This is in the context of prisons.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +7 Jewish chaplain
Change log

Jan 9, 2014 10:39: writeaway changed "Field" from "Law/Patents" to "Social Sciences" , "Field (specific)" from "Law: Contract(s)" to "Religion" , "Field (write-in)" from "Prisons" to "in a text concerning prisons"

Jan 9, 2014 11:58: Rob Grayson changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

Jan 23, 2014 08:15: Tony M Created KOG entry

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (3): David Hayes, GILLES MEUNIER, Rob Grayson

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Discussion

patrickfor Jan 9, 2014:
My pleasure :-) I learnt something.
Jack Dunwell (asker) Jan 9, 2014:
Brilliant Thank you Patrick
patrickfor Jan 9, 2014:
Chaplains from a wide range of faith traditions work with the Prison Service, including Buddhist, Church of England, Free Church, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, Roman Catholic, and Sikh.

in: http://www.justice.gov.uk/jobs/prisons/on-offer/chaplaincy

Proposed translations

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Jewish chaplain

It seems that in the UK at least, the term 'chaplain' is used for other faiths as well — I haven't checked for Moslem, but certainly for Jewish.

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Note added at 9 minutes (2014-01-09 09:34:49 GMT)
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Also, it seems in the US.

Here's just one ref. readily found with a quick Google:

Jewish Hospital Chaplaincy Services

www.jvisit.org.uk/hospital/

Jewish Hospital Chaplaincy Services.

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Note added at 24 minutes (2014-01-09 09:49:36 GMT)
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I note that my research was in the context of hospitals, but your question in fact concerns prisons; however, I have no reason to think that the term used would be any different.

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Note added at 11 heures (2014-01-09 20:58:47 GMT)
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Just as an aside, note that we do of course also have an 'almoner' in UK hospitals, who would presumably originally have had the same function, but who have now diverged into purely pastoral care. Interesting how the word and/or function has changed with time...
Note from asker:
Ah, thank you Tony, a "Visitation Committee" no less. Do you think they have a monopoly?
Peer comment(s):

agree Yvonne Gallagher : I did a translation couple of months ago where this arose regarding French Army chaplains
1 hr
Thanks, G! Happy New Year!
agree writeaway : as confirmed by virtually all standard Fr-En dictionaries (under aumônier ). There are plenty of UK hits for Jewish prison chaplains
1 hr
Thanks, W/A! Happy New Year! Yes, I didn't doubt it myself, having worked in a multi-cultural hospital, but it was ever so easy to quickly check it.
agree AllegroTrans
1 hr
Thanks, C! Happy New Year!
agree B D Finch
2 hrs
Thanks B! :-)
agree patrickfor : and a muslim chaplain too... as the question was for both. // Yes Tony,obviously Asker can... maybe a matter of culture again :-)
4 hrs
Merci, Patick ! Oui, tout à fait... I assumed Asker would be able to figure it out for himself from that point...
agree Clive Phillips : In the British Armed Forces, there are chaplains of the Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, Jewish and Sikh faiths and a network of religious advisors. More at http://www.army.mod.uk/join/20225.aspx
5 hrs
Thanks, Clive! Happy New Year! And thanks for that useful corroborative ref. too.
agree Jean-Claude Gouin
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Merci, J-C ! Bonne année !
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Support for Tony's post

Looking at the wiki entry for 'chaplain', it seems that although the term originally referred to representatives of Christian churches, it is now widely used by many religions, as well as by other belief systems such as humanism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaplain

In the States there is a National Association of Jewish Chaplains, see http://www.najc.org/about/mission and a quick Google shows there are a number of Muslim chaplaincy sites around the world also e.g. http://www.muslimchaplains.org/

The Humanist Chaplaincy Network offers pastoral care to those who do not subscribe to any particular reglion: http://www.humanistchaplains.org/

Hope this helps

Irene
Note from asker:
Thank you so much Irene. I obviously move in the wrong circles and have too many instant presumptions about the word "chaplain"
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Tony M
1 min
agree Yvonne Gallagher
49 mins
agree AllegroTrans
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agree Clive Phillips
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Reference:

2 examples of UK ref

2011-51 - Faith and pastoral care for prisoners - Ministry of Justice
www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/.../psi-51-2011-faith-pastoral...
All Public Sector and Contracted Prison Staff with particular relevance for Catering Managers, ... E mail: [email protected] ...... the use of a sukkah, this should be discussed with the Jewish Chaplain and Governor.

BBC - History - World Wars: Liberation of the Concentration Camps
www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/liberation_camps_01.s...
Feb 17, 2011 - These concentration and slave-labour camps, located throughout the .... In addition, Isaac Levy, a Senior British Army Jewish Chaplain, held a ...
Note from asker:
Very good W, thank you. Now have you cancelled your reallocation as requested?
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree philgoddard : This is easy to Google.
6 hrs
agree Tony M
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Reference:

Aumôniers dans les prisons

Extrait du site de la Ministère de la Justice (française):

"Des aumôniers agréés interviennent en détention afin de célébrer les offices religieux, d’animer des réunions cultuelles et d’apporter l’assistance spirituelle aux personnes détenues.

Cinq confessions sont agréées au niveau national : les aumôneries catholique, israélite, musulmane, orthodoxe et protestante.

Au 1er janvier 2013,on comptait 1 311 intervenants cultuels en détention."
Note from asker:
Thank you Clive !!
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Tony M
5 hrs
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