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Jul 22, 2018 11:17
5 yrs ago
French term

Or sauvage

French to English Art/Literary Mining & Minerals / Gems Jewellery
Hi,

This is taken from an interview with a jeweller who is expressing his love for "or sauvage" which became popular in the 1970s.

Below is a reference:
http://www.coutaubegarie.com/html/fiche.jsp?id=5100116&np=1&...

I am drawing a blank. Can anyone help?
Thanks
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 gold nugget
3 +1 Unwrought gold

Discussion

Mr.Q (asker) Jul 24, 2018:
Thank you very much for you comments.
Kevin Oheix Jul 24, 2018:
Asker I think you mean "when", not "where". I read your sentence as "et c'est là que / à ce moment-là que..", which means "and that's when people began to use "or sauvage" (gold with a natural and rough finish, apparently). Still according to my reference, we know this gold can be "matt" (not shiny) or "vif poli" (highly/brightly polished) while being crafted.
B D Finch Jul 24, 2018:
@Asker The confusion was because I thought you were quoting your source text when, in fact, it now seems you were quoting your own translation with "or sauvage" inserted after your translation (or mistranslation) of that as "yellow gold". That made it seem that your source text was in English and that it included the French term in brackets.

Context is best given by quoting the source text, not the Asker's translation of it.
Mr.Q (asker) Jul 24, 2018:
Hi.
As you requested a sentence and more context, I provided it. I replaced 'or sauvage' with what I thought had been suggested for an English translation ('yellow gold').
It was just to clarify the context and help find a more suitable solution.

Thanks.
B D Finch Jul 24, 2018:
@Asker There's a problem with the extract you quote from your source text. This bit is, actually, nonsense: "here is where we started to see the use of yellow gold (or sauvage)". Your text implies that "or sauvage" simply means "yellow gold", but Kevin's reference shows that it doesn't simply mean that. Yellow is the classic colour for gold, because it's close to the colour of pure gold and only occurs at quite high levels of purity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colored_gold

Though other colours of gold have been popular and fashionable at different periods, yellow has always been a widely used colour and the term "yellow gold" is commonly used to cover all that isn't white gold or rose gold.
Mr.Q (asker) Jul 23, 2018:
The segment covers this period:

"It’s a great object. And the last, well, it’s an object from the 70s. It’s the Colibri by Pierre Sterlé, and here is where we started to see the use of yellow gold (or sauvage), the metal…that’s an object which I like a lot"
Kevin Oheix Jul 23, 2018:
Yellow gold was popular in the 1970s and I read that it was a time when gold was combined with crystal and diamonds. Indian inspiration. See my note.

Now it would help to have a full sentence.
Mr.Q (asker) Jul 23, 2018:
I think Wild Gold is the name of films, songs and a company. Maybe this explains the search hits
Mr.Q (asker) Jul 23, 2018:
It is an audio file, and refers to something similar to this:
http://www.alaintruong.com/archives/2011/08/03/21729335.html

Yellow gold, perhaps? Taken from this:
https://www.1stdibs.com/jewelry/rings/cocktail-rings/sterle-...
philgoddard Jul 22, 2018:
Could we have the text you're translating, please?
"Wild gold" gets some hits, but I can't find a definition.
Herbmione Granger Jul 22, 2018:
natural? http://www.naturalgoldjewelry.com/home.html

Proposed translations

+1
1 hr

Unwrought gold

Or sauvage: Or travaillé mat ou poli vif avec rendu naturel, brut.

http://propertyofalady.fr/2017/05/30/les-seventies-sont-de-r...

Suggestion based on the above information which seems to fit the context.

Unwrought gold = Or mat (brut)
Raw = Naturel, brut (rough)

https://books.google.fr/books?id=0e0NAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA757&lpg=P...

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Note added at 22 heures (2018-07-23 10:13:58 GMT)
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I read about gold in the seventies and yellow gold was very popular. You see "or jaune sauvage" for example. It is worth considering these lines (link provided above):

"Formé dans les ateliers de la bijouterie parisienne Murat, il se passionne pour le traitement des matériaux et l'art des métaux, un intérêt qui le mène à inventer le concept de l'or sauvage en 1968-69 [...] Associé à des pierres de couleurs gravées et aux diamants, l'inspiration indienne est manifeste.
Peer comment(s):
neutral philgoddard : Maybe, but I'm not sure. "Unwrought gold is impure gold created from scrap which needs further processing, mainly refining, before it can be used for manufacture of other articles."
5 hrs
agree GILLES MEUNIER
22 hrs
neutral B D Finch : Looking at your reference, it makes it clear that the gold was, indeed "wrought" ("torsadé, granulé, froissé, martelé, ciselé, oxydé ...), in ordre to make it look "natural" and "rough".
1 day 20 hrs
Yes, that's what I'm realizing now.
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+1
1 day 12 mins

gold nugget

https://www.jewelry-secrets.com/Blog/gold-nugget-jewelry/
"Remember Nugget?
Back in the 80’s and 90’s, Gold Nugget Jewelry was a huge, huge trend."

www.pioneerjewelers.com/catalog/gold-nugget-jewelry
Gold nugget jewelry.

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Note added at 2 days 4 hrs (2018-07-24 15:54:35 GMT)
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@Asker
If you google "gold nugget jewelry" you'll find that there are plenty of variations on the theme, some of which are similar to your link.
Note from asker:
Not sure gold nugget, as shown in your link, is the same as the type of gold used in my link. Thanks.
Peer comment(s):
agree Yolanda Broad
4 hrs
Thanks Yolanda
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