Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

phénomènes invasifs

English translation:

invasive strains

Added to glossary by elizabeth_med
Mar 7, 2016 19:04
8 yrs ago
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French term

phénomènes invasifs

French to English Medical Medical (general) SPC
"Traitement de la diarrhée aiguë présumée d'origine bactérienne en l'absence de suspicion de phénomènes invasifs (altération de l'état général, fièvre, signes toxi- infectieux...)."

Discussion

Michael Barnett Mar 7, 2016:
Signs of invasion Presumably invasive strains of bacteria. The author proceeds to elucidate the phenomena he has in mind - fever, altered state, signs of toxemia/infection. It seems to me that what the author had in mind with "phenomenes invasifs" was in fact "systemic symptoms".
Drmanu49 Mar 7, 2016:
This is to differentiate between invasive and noninvasive infectious diarrhea.
elizabeth_med (asker) Mar 7, 2016:
My client generally does not like the term "phenomena" in scientific writing, so I am trying to avoid it. What exactly does that mean, anyway? There is no suspicion of what, exactly? Signs of systemic disease? "Invasive phenomena" may be an ok literal translation, but it just doesn't "mean" much to me, if you see what I mean.
Chakib Roula Mar 7, 2016:
Je crois que nous pouvons envisager une traduction littérale.
Invasive phenomena.

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invasive strains

I see what you mean about "invasive phenomena", this only appears on the WHO site, nowhere else.

I think they are talking about "invasive strains"

see:

Medicine for Mountaineering & Other Wilderness Activities, ...
https://books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=1594853932
James A Wilkerson, M.D. - 2010 - ‎Health & Fitness
Noninvasive diarrhea is caused by organisms that do not invade the lining of the ... Invasive bacterial infections often are associated with chills and fever, and with pus, mucus, ... can lead to the emergence of antibiotic-resistant strains of organisms. ... acquired in the wilderness and in developing countries are of viral origin.

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i.e.
there is no suspicion of invasive strains

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Classifications of diarrhoeal disease
users.ox.ac.uk/~gree0725/.../Library%20Notes/DiarrhoeaClassifications.d...
1: classification of the causes of diarrhoea ( people were concerned about the causes): ... of the field, like paediatricians, patients with D of obscure origin, etc. ... bacteria. - viruses. 213 classification in research on mortality: acute D 35% of death .... allow separation of 9 invasive and 13 non-invasive strains of E. histolytica.

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Acute Diarrhoea in Childhood - Page 63 - Google Books Result
https://books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0470717920
CIBA Foundation Symposium - 2009 - ‎Medical
of the same E. coli strain did not permit any significance to be attached to it, yet a ... intestine of the pig, a region which normally contains relatively few bacteria. ... for transmissible pathogenic characters in invasive strains of Escherichia coli; the ... produced by enteropathogenic strains of Escherichia coli of porcine origin.
Peer comment(s):

agree Christy Wyatt (X)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I hesitated between "signs of invasion" and "invasive strain" but this seems to work better and more naturally in the sentence."
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Invasive ( medical) occurrences

as an alternative to ' invasive phenomena', which is fine;
Peer comment(s):

agree Chakib Roula : Occurrences seems pretty credible.
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Yes, both work;
disagree Drmanu49 : occurence of what? This is to differentiate between invasive and noninvasive infectious diarrheas
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No comment.
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due to invasive pathogens

Acute diarrhea in adults and children: a global ... - AIGO
webaigo.it/download/diarrea%20acuta.pdf
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de M Farthing - ‎2012 - ‎Cité 52 fois - ‎Autres articles
Table 3 Linking the main symptoms to the causes of acute diarrhea— ..... infection due to invasive pathogens, such as Shigella, Campylobacter jejuni,.

Acute diarrhea - WikEM
https://wikem.org/wiki/Acute_diarrhea
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4 juin 2015 - Enterotoxigenic E. coli (most common cause of watery diarrhea) ... Used to differentiate invasive from noninvasive infectious diarrheas ...
Peer comment(s):

neutral liz askew : it is not "due to"....there is no suspicion of invasive bacteria
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Obviously, absence of or no signs of infection due to
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Signs of invasion

The key issue here is whether the infection is confined locally to the gut mucosa

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Seehttp://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4684-3983-0_1...
Peer comment(s):

disagree Drmanu49 : Invasion of what? This is to differentiate between invasive and noninvasive infectious diarrheas// sorry but your answer is not specific enough and doens't mention the well-known causative pathogens.
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Invasion of the gut wall, leading to systemic infection. I think we are saying the same thing!
agree Michael Barnett : Poorly worded source text.
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Thank you
agree Helen Genevier
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Thank you
agree Rachel Fell
1 day 23 hrs
thank you
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evidence of invasivity

In case you'd like to choose a slightly unusual wording as in the source text ;-)

I agree with Michael Barnett and other colleagues, that this refers to bacteria or toxins evading from the intestines into the blood and causing systemic disease rather than organ-specific symptoms only.
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