Oct 10, 2005 18:20
18 yrs ago
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French term
sous-groupe d’analyse restreint
French to English
Medical
Genetics
FRE Canadian/transcript of a meeting on the treatment of CMV in transplant patients
Est-ce que c’est un artifice d’un sous-groupe d’analyse restreint ou est-ce qu’il y a des raisons pharmacocinétiques impliquées?
(about the surprising results of a pharmaceutical study)
small analysis subset? limited analysis subset?
none of the above?
TIA!
(about the surprising results of a pharmaceutical study)
small analysis subset? limited analysis subset?
none of the above?
TIA!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | an artifact of analysing a restricted sub-group |
Richard Benham
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| 4 +2 | limited or restricted subgroup analysis or subgroup analysis of a restricted number of x |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
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| 4 +1 | analysis of a smaller subgroup |
Georges Tocco
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| 5 -1 | restrained analysis subgroup |
dutulina (X)
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Proposed translations
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10 hrs
Richard Benham
France
France
Native in English
France
When quality counts
Native in: English 
Works in: German to English, French to English, English
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French term (edited):
un artifice d�un sous-groupe d�analyse restreint
Selected
an artifact of analysing a restricted sub-group
What is being suggested here is that the surprising result may have resulted from restricting the analysis to too small a sub-group, or possibly of the way in which the sub-group was selected--it's not made clear.
A couple of others have got the right idea; I'm just suggesting an idiomatic way of formulating it.
A couple of others have got the right idea; I'm just suggesting an idiomatic way of formulating it.
Peer comment(s):
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Dr Sue Levy (X)
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Thanks.
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Ford Prefect
: The method of selecting the sub group is at least implicitly at fault - provided there was selection applied. As Richard says we can't tell this from the sentence given. If there was no selection the suggestion is the result is a "statistical" artifact.
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Yes. Could either be the manner of selection, or maybe the selected subgroup was too small for the results to be significant.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I like the way you put it, Richard, thank you."
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5 mins
French term (edited):
sous-groupe d�analyse restreint
limited or restricted subgroup analysis or subgroup analysis of a restricted number of x
if yoy know what it is in the group...you can it..
In subgroup analysis, there were increases in medial tibial bone area in all
offspring subgroups, ... If the analysis was restricted to those over 45 years, ...
ard.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/63/10/1255 - Similar pages
Stats: Subgroup analysis (December 21, 2004)
Subgroup analysis (December 21, 2004). A recently published trial shows a logical
... There is also debate about whether there is enough genetic variations ...
www.childrens-mercy.org/ stats/weblog2004/SubgroupAnalysis.asp - 8k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 6 mins (2005-10-10 18:27:09 GMT)
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In my example: they say if the analysis was restricted to those over 45 years
so presumably: restricted subgroup analysis would work
so would: subgroup analysis restricted to x..meaning only those factors are being analyzed..
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Note added at 8 mins (2005-10-10 18:28:27 GMT)
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I would say Group: ie the group of patients or subject selected for a trial...and sub-group is one taken from that...I wouldn't use Sets and subsets
In subgroup analysis, there were increases in medial tibial bone area in all
offspring subgroups, ... If the analysis was restricted to those over 45 years, ...
ard.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/63/10/1255 - Similar pages
Stats: Subgroup analysis (December 21, 2004)
Subgroup analysis (December 21, 2004). A recently published trial shows a logical
... There is also debate about whether there is enough genetic variations ...
www.childrens-mercy.org/ stats/weblog2004/SubgroupAnalysis.asp - 8k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 6 mins (2005-10-10 18:27:09 GMT)
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In my example: they say if the analysis was restricted to those over 45 years
so presumably: restricted subgroup analysis would work
so would: subgroup analysis restricted to x..meaning only those factors are being analyzed..
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Note added at 8 mins (2005-10-10 18:28:27 GMT)
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I would say Group: ie the group of patients or subject selected for a trial...and sub-group is one taken from that...I wouldn't use Sets and subsets
Peer comment(s):
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Georges Tocco
1 hr
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Charlie Bavington
: I agree with those suggestions where it's clear that it's the group that is restricted/limited (as the Fr does, restreint for group not restreinte for analysis) but not those where it's ambiguous (e.g. restricted subgroup analysis)
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1 hr
Georges Tocco
Italy
Italy
Native in French
&
English
Specializes in field
Italy
French PhD, Harvard Med Sch Faculty
Native in: French , English 
, Italian
Works in: English to French, French to English, Italian to French, and 1 more.
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French term (edited):
sous-groupe d�analyse restreint
analysis of a smaller subgroup
same explanation as Jane
Peer comment(s):
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Charlie Bavington
: or limited subgroup - the key thing here is that restreint is qualifying the subgroup not the analysis, otherwise it would be "restreinte", so the English needs to make that clear, which this answer does.
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French term (edited):
sous-groupe d�analyse restreint
restrained analysis subgroup
The analysis is meant to observe a limited nomber of certain elements.
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