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French term
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Works in: English to French, French to English, English
l'aérien
French to English
Tech/Engineering
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port radar installation
NB This has nothing to do with air transport. The radar is installed in a port and targets sea vessels.
The contract is for replacing old radar equipment.
I've provisionally used "aerial part".
un marché public CARACTERISTIQUES PRINCIPALES
Remplacement des radars du port de xxx
Le marché comportera une tranche ferme et 1 tranche(s) optionnelle(s) ;
Quantités :
Installation de l'aérien pour le radar du xxx Installation de l'aérien de la vigie xxx Installation d'une IHM
The contract is for replacing old radar equipment.
I've provisionally used "aerial part".
un marché public CARACTERISTIQUES PRINCIPALES
Remplacement des radars du port de xxx
Le marché comportera une tranche ferme et 1 tranche(s) optionnelle(s) ;
Quantités :
Installation de l'aérien pour le radar du xxx Installation de l'aérien de la vigie xxx Installation d'une IHM
Proposed translations
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| 2 | (radar) superstructure |
Daryo
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| 3 -1 | array |
AllegroTrans
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| 3 -3 | the aerial |
Lisa Rosengard
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Proposed translations
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French term (edited):
l'aérien (d'une installation de radar)
(radar) superstructure
Superstructure
The superstructure is the portion of a building which is constructed above the ground level and it serves the purpose of structure’s intended use. It includes columns, beams, slab upwards including all finishes, door and window schedules, flooring, roofing, lintels, and parapets.
https://theconstructor.org/building/superstructure-substruct...
the only reservation (thus CL2) is that it could be interpreted as to include only the building, not all the equipment that goes in and on top (the radar antenna and all the accompanying electronics)
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superstructure of the radar installation ?
The superstructure is the portion of a building which is constructed above the ground level and it serves the purpose of structure’s intended use. It includes columns, beams, slab upwards including all finishes, door and window schedules, flooring, roofing, lintels, and parapets.
https://theconstructor.org/building/superstructure-substruct...
the only reservation (thus CL2) is that it could be interpreted as to include only the building, not all the equipment that goes in and on top (the radar antenna and all the accompanying electronics)
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superstructure of the radar installation ?
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SafeTex
: "radar aeriel structure" might solve your reservation but it gets very few hits. I read "aeriel" in it as being in the air, not the component itself
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AllegroTrans
: Right idea, wrong term
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CL2 so I'm not saying that it's THE term, but for sure it's closer to the mark than "array" which can't fit in this ST whichever way you try HERE it's ONLY ONE radar, not an "array of radars", nor a radar build as an "array" of repeated elements.
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AllegroTrans
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array
Describes all the parts - masts, dishes etc etc
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Aerial Arrays - A.T.V. Poles, Brackets, Clamps & Aerials
www.aerialsandtv.com › knowledge › aerial-arrays
Aerial arrays. The subjects on this page are listed on the following order: ATV's aerial array. Pole strengths on actual arrays. Amateur radio aerial arrays.
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AtlanticFrogTiger415PE - SteelNavy
www.steelnavy.net › ...
have multiple platforms, radar arrays (types 277, 293, 294, and 960), yards and railings, all of which you get on the Atlantic fret. In addition to the two lattice masts ...
www.sciencedirect.com › topics › engineering › phased-a...
Phased-array radar devices produce an angular scanning of the horizon without mechanical rotation of ... A time-balance slope is defined for each beam type.
Ubiquitous MIMO Multifunction Digital Array Radar ... - dtic.mil
apps.dtic.mil › dtic › fulltext
PDF
Radar arrays are often classified based upon the type of beamforming hardware they use (i.e., analog vs digital). Analog beamforming (ABF) radars use analog ...
by DJ Rabideau - 2004 - Cited by 50 - Related articles
Baker-Polito Administration Announces $400,000 Grant to ...
m2i2.masstech.org › press-releases › baker-polito-adminis...
1 Feb 2018 - The project partners, which includes SI2, UMass Lowell, and Raytheon, estimate the market for those types of radar array systems will be ...
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steelnavy.com › MMMahan1942
These parts will include wartime ship's boats; two types of radar array; stack caps; gun director & director radar; davits; signal lamps; searchlights; paravanes; ...
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Radar Array Processing | Simon Haykin | Springer
www.springer.com › book
Radar Array Processing presents modern techniques and methods for processingradar signals received by an array of antenna elements. With the recent rapid ...
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Multi-mode FMCW radar array with independent digital beam ...
ieeexplore.ieee.org › document
Multi-mode FMCW radar array with independent digital beam steering for transmit and receive. Abstract: A phased-array FMCW radar has been design and built ...
by R van Dijk - 2008 - Cited by 3 - Related articles
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www.thedrive.com › the-war-zone › russia-plans-to-set-...
2 Dec 2019 - Russia Plans To Set Up Massive New Radar Array To Help "Control" The Arctic Region. Russia claims the new radar would give it enhanced ...
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www.defenceonline.co.uk › 2020/07/24 › raytheon-del...
24 Jul 2020 - Raytheon Missiles & Defense has delivered the first AN/SPY-6(V)1 radar array for installation on the future USS Jack H. Lucas (DDG 125).
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A radar array to locate buried landmines using the radar ...
www.spiedigitallibrary.org › 12.606043.full
An array of compact, inexpensive radars has been developed that utilizes commercial Doppler radar transceivers and box horn array antennas operating in the ...
by B Wiemeyer - 2005
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Aerial Arrays - A.T.V. Poles, Brackets, Clamps & Aerials
www.aerialsandtv.com › knowledge › aerial-arrays
Aerial arrays. The subjects on this page are listed on the following order: ATV's aerial array. Pole strengths on actual arrays. Amateur radio aerial arrays.
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Note added at 3 days 9 hrs (2020-08-01 21:59:13 GMT)
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AtlanticFrogTiger415PE - SteelNavy
www.steelnavy.net › ...
have multiple platforms, radar arrays (types 277, 293, 294, and 960), yards and railings, all of which you get on the Atlantic fret. In addition to the two lattice masts ...
www.sciencedirect.com › topics › engineering › phased-a...
Phased-array radar devices produce an angular scanning of the horizon without mechanical rotation of ... A time-balance slope is defined for each beam type.
Ubiquitous MIMO Multifunction Digital Array Radar ... - dtic.mil
apps.dtic.mil › dtic › fulltext
Radar arrays are often classified based upon the type of beamforming hardware they use (i.e., analog vs digital). Analog beamforming (ABF) radars use analog ...
by DJ Rabideau - 2004 - Cited by 50 - Related articles
Baker-Polito Administration Announces $400,000 Grant to ...
m2i2.masstech.org › press-releases › baker-polito-adminis...
1 Feb 2018 - The project partners, which includes SI2, UMass Lowell, and Raytheon, estimate the market for those types of radar array systems will be ...
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Note added at 3 days 9 hrs (2020-08-01 22:00:01 GMT)
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steelnavy.com › MMMahan1942
These parts will include wartime ship's boats; two types of radar array; stack caps; gun director & director radar; davits; signal lamps; searchlights; paravanes; ...
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Note added at 3 days 9 hrs (2020-08-01 22:01:01 GMT)
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Radar Array Processing | Simon Haykin | Springer
www.springer.com › book
Radar Array Processing presents modern techniques and methods for processingradar signals received by an array of antenna elements. With the recent rapid ...
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Note added at 3 days 9 hrs (2020-08-01 22:01:55 GMT)
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Multi-mode FMCW radar array with independent digital beam ...
ieeexplore.ieee.org › document
Multi-mode FMCW radar array with independent digital beam steering for transmit and receive. Abstract: A phased-array FMCW radar has been design and built ...
by R van Dijk - 2008 - Cited by 3 - Related articles
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Note added at 3 days 9 hrs (2020-08-01 22:03:00 GMT)
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www.thedrive.com › the-war-zone › russia-plans-to-set-...
2 Dec 2019 - Russia Plans To Set Up Massive New Radar Array To Help "Control" The Arctic Region. Russia claims the new radar would give it enhanced ...
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Note added at 3 days 9 hrs (2020-08-01 22:03:58 GMT)
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www.defenceonline.co.uk › 2020/07/24 › raytheon-del...
24 Jul 2020 - Raytheon Missiles & Defense has delivered the first AN/SPY-6(V)1 radar array for installation on the future USS Jack H. Lucas (DDG 125).
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Note added at 3 days 9 hrs (2020-08-01 22:04:51 GMT)
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A radar array to locate buried landmines using the radar ...
www.spiedigitallibrary.org › 12.606043.full
An array of compact, inexpensive radars has been developed that utilizes commercial Doppler radar transceivers and box horn array antennas operating in the ...
by B Wiemeyer - 2005
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: you started from a false friend: "l'aérien" in this ST is the part of the whole radar installation that is "up the air/above the ground", not a radio "aerial" // an "array" is made of several interconnected identical elements see RAID, array of telescopes
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Look at https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7052565 and you will see the term is also applied to radar installations
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Lisa Rosengard
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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Native in: English (Variant: UK)
Works in: Spanish to English, English, Spanish, and 3 more.
the aerial
"One firm part will be included and another optional part
The aerial installation for the radar from the point, aerial installation for the view-point."
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Apparently the aerial is radar antenna.
"Antenna is a conductor by which electro-magnetic waves are sent out or received, commonly of a wire or set of wires often attached to metal rods: aerial."
"Radar antenna is a device which radiates radio frequency energy in a radar system, concentrating the transmitted power in the direction of a target, and which provides a large area to collect the echo power of the returning wave."
One part is for sound and the other is about vision.
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www.wikipedia.org/wiki/radar
"Radar is a detection system which uses radio waves to detect aircraft, ships etc in the vicinity. Its antenna are used for receiving and transmitting information collected using electromagnetic waves in its radio domain. A receiver and processor determines properties of objects detected while radio waves reflect the object from the transmitter."
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The radar exists to perceive and detect, collect information by means of radio waves. By reflecting the object from a transmitter the radar can transmit information connected with whatever it perceives in its vicinity. (wikipedia.org/wiki/radar)
The information is not the sound or vision itself but the information connected to its existence.
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"Des antennes sont un conducteur par lequel des ondes électro-magnétiques sont envoyées ou recevues comme d'habitude d'un fil de fer ou une série de fils de fer souvent attachées à des tringles de métal. Radar est un système de détection (perception) qui utilise des ondes de radio pour détecter (percevoir) des objets comme des (porte)avions, des navires dans une voisinité. Ses antennes sont employées pour recevoir et pour transmettre de l'information collectionnée en utilisant des ondes électro-magnétiques au domaine de sa radio. Un recepteur et processeur détermine les caractéristiques des objets percevus tandis que des ondes de radio réflettent l'objet de la transmission."
"'Des antennes de radar' est un objet qui émane de la fréquence d'une radio dans un système de radar tout en concentrant la puissance en direction à une cible et qui fourni un territoire grand où on collectionne la puissance de l'echo de l'onde qui retourne (une partie ferme sera inclue tandis qu'une autre partie est optionnelle). L'installation des antennes pour le système du radar du point de son et l'installation des antennes pour le système du point de vue." Une première partie est pour le bruit ou son tandis qu'une autre partie est pour la vision. Les antennes de radar existent pour détecter et pour percevoir, collectionner de l'information par des ondes de radio. Tout en refléttant l'objet d'un transmetteur les antennes peuvent transmettre de l'information liée avec ce qu'il y a à percevoir dans la voisinité. L'information n'est pas le son (le bruit) ou la vision en soi, mais les données (datas) connectés avec son existence.
The aerial installation for the radar from the point, aerial installation for the view-point."
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Note added at 1 day 6 hrs (2020-07-30 19:39:55 GMT)
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Apparently the aerial is radar antenna.
"Antenna is a conductor by which electro-magnetic waves are sent out or received, commonly of a wire or set of wires often attached to metal rods: aerial."
"Radar antenna is a device which radiates radio frequency energy in a radar system, concentrating the transmitted power in the direction of a target, and which provides a large area to collect the echo power of the returning wave."
One part is for sound and the other is about vision.
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Note added at 1 day 21 hrs (2020-07-31 10:52:26 GMT)
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www.wikipedia.org/wiki/radar
"Radar is a detection system which uses radio waves to detect aircraft, ships etc in the vicinity. Its antenna are used for receiving and transmitting information collected using electromagnetic waves in its radio domain. A receiver and processor determines properties of objects detected while radio waves reflect the object from the transmitter."
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The radar exists to perceive and detect, collect information by means of radio waves. By reflecting the object from a transmitter the radar can transmit information connected with whatever it perceives in its vicinity. (wikipedia.org/wiki/radar)
The information is not the sound or vision itself but the information connected to its existence.
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"Des antennes sont un conducteur par lequel des ondes électro-magnétiques sont envoyées ou recevues comme d'habitude d'un fil de fer ou une série de fils de fer souvent attachées à des tringles de métal. Radar est un système de détection (perception) qui utilise des ondes de radio pour détecter (percevoir) des objets comme des (porte)avions, des navires dans une voisinité. Ses antennes sont employées pour recevoir et pour transmettre de l'information collectionnée en utilisant des ondes électro-magnétiques au domaine de sa radio. Un recepteur et processeur détermine les caractéristiques des objets percevus tandis que des ondes de radio réflettent l'objet de la transmission."
"'Des antennes de radar' est un objet qui émane de la fréquence d'une radio dans un système de radar tout en concentrant la puissance en direction à une cible et qui fourni un territoire grand où on collectionne la puissance de l'echo de l'onde qui retourne (une partie ferme sera inclue tandis qu'une autre partie est optionnelle). L'installation des antennes pour le système du radar du point de son et l'installation des antennes pour le système du point de vue." Une première partie est pour le bruit ou son tandis qu'une autre partie est pour la vision. Les antennes de radar existent pour détecter et pour percevoir, collectionner de l'information par des ondes de radio. Tout en refléttant l'objet d'un transmetteur les antennes peuvent transmettre de l'information liée avec ce qu'il y a à percevoir dans la voisinité. L'information n'est pas le son (le bruit) ou la vision en soi, mais les données (datas) connectés avec son existence.
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: This is a faux ami here: l'aérien is much more than JUST the antenna itself.... Specialist technical knowledge is crucial here.
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Daryo
: an "aerial" is used for "ordinary" radio equipment, a radar has an "antenna" (strictly speaking two: a transmitting antenna + a receiving antenna) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar // there is NO SOUND whatsoever transmitted by a radar!!!
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AllegroTrans
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Discussion
You CAN find "array" used in connection with radars, but it doesn't mean automatically that the radar in this ST (mounted in/near a port and monitoring the maritime traffic near the port, 99% one with a rotating parabolic antenna") has ANYTHING to do with any kind of "array".
You could have un "array of radars" = SEVERAL radars that work together to cover far more than any of them individually could,
or you could have
ONE radar built as an "array" of interconnected repeated modules - here is one of the most unusual examples
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/DUGA_Rad...
The array at Chernobyl, viewed from a distance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duga_radar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over-the-horizon_radar
I can't se how any of these combinations of "array" + "radar" could apply to this ST.
Obviously, this rotating antenna can not stand and rotate in thin air, so au sense large "l'aérien" would also include everything between the ground and the antenna.
looks like a protective piece of equipment
https://www.seaviewprogress.com/en/product-category/seaview-...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstructure