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Oct 3, 2019 15:04
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French term

collecte

French to English Science Agriculture
Hello

In a large job with thousands of entries, I often have "collecte" as in

***collecte*** de la matière premiere vegétale

or

***Collecteur*** de matière première végétale

or Post-***collecte*** (tri, vannage, conditionnement…)

Should be easy except that the same text already uses other words like "cueillir" and "Cueillette"

or

Heures de récolte

and

Enregistrement des quantités récoltées par jour

So you've already guessed. I've already used harvest and its inflexions and I've already used "pick" and it's inflexions

What is "collecte" therefore? A synonym? A word that covers both harvest and pick?

Or something else?

Thanks for any help
Proposed translations (English)
3 +4 collection / collection point
4 pickup
References
collecte de céréales, définition
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Discussion

SafeTex (asker) Oct 8, 2019:
@ all Hello
I have to close this question without grading as the answer is both "gather" and "collect" depending on context.
But thanks for the help
Cyril Tollari Oct 3, 2019:
@SafeTex
I can see it too, and from your examples use collect, but don't use collect for "collecte" when "collecte" means gather. Don't hesitate to use gather instead, because French "collecte" can mean gather.
Example:
opérations de collecte de documents et de renseignements
efforts to gather material and information
SafeTex (asker) Oct 3, 2019:
@ Cyril Hello

I can assure you that I have not done that as I've just spent the last hour changing each segment one at time with either gather or collect

I even had an ambiguous segment which I commented for the client. It was:

Relation entre le terrain et l'organisation qui collecte ?

Thanks for your concern :)

SafeTex
B D Finch Oct 3, 2019:
@Cyril Yes, gathering can mean bringing things together into one place. Dirt gathers in corners. However, because it can also mean gathering the harvest, it is a term that would cause confusion here. The real question is whether "collecte" means collection, e.g. what happens when the lorries come to collect the harvested produce. When they do the "collecte" the "éboueurs" collect the rubbish, they don't "gather" it.
Cyril Tollari Oct 3, 2019:
I can see the picking up in sequence in "collecte de la matière premiere végétale", but without any context, this could also mean bringing together in one place. I think collecteur is collection point though.
Cyril Tollari Oct 3, 2019:
"There is a large area of overlap. Gather has the sense of bringing together in one place while collecting refers to picking up in sequence. "
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/188743/what-is-t...
B D Finch Oct 3, 2019:
@Soizic The term "to gather" is a more poetic alternative for "to harvest". However, "to collect" or "collection" are not alternative terms for "to harvest" or "harvesting", "picking" etc.
Cyril Tollari Oct 3, 2019:
@SafeTex
That's ok, let's work out first which is right for you.

@Soizic
I think the issue here is the different contexts.
SafeTex (asker) Oct 3, 2019:
@ cyril of course you can but I wouldn't know what to do as I'm now sure it is both.
In that case, I would flick a coin and give it to the "winner" but in the glossary, I'd put both suggestions in.

Okay?

SafeTex
Soizic Ziegler (X) Oct 3, 2019:
I would second the term "gather", and would not shy away from using "collection of raw materials", or post- collection. I'm not sure why gather would be preferred to collect if it happens after the fact, as they both refer to the bringing together of things.
Cyril Tollari Oct 3, 2019:
Shall I suggest "gather" as an answer then? :)
SafeTex (asker) Oct 3, 2019:
@ BD Finch and Cyril Thanks for that

I've now gone back to the text with your ideas and decided that it could be both depending on the sentence

Relation entre le terrain et l'organisation qui collecte ? (probably "collect")

Post-collecte (tri, vannage, conditionnement…) (probably "gather" as you can't do anything with the product after it has been collected, so it must be "gather"

Thanks
Cyril Tollari Oct 3, 2019:
I think they mean "gathering of raw materials" in this context, otherwise they would have used "récolte" (harvesting), like in "centre de récolte et de transformation".

Proposed translations

+4
16 mins

collection / collection point

This looks to me as though it is about collection of produce already picked/harvested.
Peer comment(s):
agree Cyril Tollari : Is it in the sens of regular removal/gathering of raw materials? Without any further context, I think you're right.
29 mins
Thanks Cyril.
agree Irene Chalmers Preire : That's what I was thinking.
18 hrs
Thanks
agree Michael Confais (X)
22 hrs
Thanks Michael
agree Ben Gaia : collection
1 day 43 mins
Thanks Ben
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1 day 1 hr

pickup

Used in this sense in NZ.
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Reference comments

1 hr
Reference:

collecte de céréales, définition

les céréales sont aussi des matières végétales

https://www.franceagrimer.fr/filiere-grandes-cultures/Cereal...

Les « collecteurs de céréales » sont des personnes ou des sociétés qui traitent en France des céréales pour les besoins de leur industrie ou les collectent pour les revendre, et qui détiennent la « qualité de commerçant » (article D 666-3 du CRPM)
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