Jun 4, 2004 19:40
20 yrs ago
English term

a dove

Non-PRO English to Malay Other Other
A person who has opposite personality/character of a hawk.
Proposed translations (Malay)
3 +1 merpati

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Jun 5, 2004:
Thanks.
yam2u Jun 5, 2004:
The translation rule for non-translated foreign terms: use quotation points or italics if the terms have not been absorbed by the target language, not if they have become part of the lexicon of the TL. [You're a translator and you don't know this?]
Non-ProZ.com Jun 5, 2004:
What do you learn in translation school?? I read a lot of things in English where they maintained the term such as "Imam", "jihad" "rabbi" so as not to confuse the meaning. Just wonder if that the case in Malay translation and put the term in " " so as not to change the true meaning of the term.
melayujati Jun 5, 2004:
We can't use tikus, as it means timid. Only thing might be "seperti enggang dan pipit" to show the contrasting traits, although there's no sign of aggressiveness in the enggang in this case. will post more if I can think of something else.
Non-ProZ.com Jun 5, 2004:
I know its a bird, a merpati but do we have a term in Malay to describe that kind of personality? We have a word like "Singa" to say about a person personality for example , garang macam singa or something like that. The only merpati I know is jinak-jinak merpati but it is totally bring a different meaning. So, just wonder if we have a word to describe that kind of personality.

Proposed translations

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9 hrs
Selected

merpati

lemah-lembut/penyayang/pengaman (peace-lover)
*see note on hawk as well.
Peer comment(s):

agree yam2u : i'd go with "pengaman" or "pro-keamanan" though, simply because the terms "dove/hawk" refering to "people who are pro-peace/pro-war" came into popular use during the vietnam war.
15 hrs
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2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "The points is for my appreciation. I don't think "merpati" is the right answer in this context because we have never use that term. Again, thks."
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