Mar 12, 2008 12:17
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Wie ist folgender Satz eurer Meinung nach zu verstehen (Terminologie ist klar):
Public policy has to give the right support to enable farmers to adapt their farm structures and production methods, and **to continue providing services to the rural environment**.
a) Public policy has [...] to continue providing services to the rural environment.
b) Public policy has to give the right support to enable farmers [...] to continue providing services to the rural environment.
Vielen Dank vorab!
Public policy has to give the right support to enable farmers to adapt their farm structures and production methods, and **to continue providing services to the rural environment**.
a) Public policy has [...] to continue providing services to the rural environment.
b) Public policy has to give the right support to enable farmers [...] to continue providing services to the rural environment.
Vielen Dank vorab!
Proposed translations
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| 4 +1 | Strange.... |
David Moore (X)
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| 5 +2 | Möglichkeit b |
Ruth Ahrens
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| 3 +2 | Nr. 2 |
Katja Schoone
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| 3 | bezug: UND |
Joan Hass
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| 3 | Number 1 (but ask the client) |
Bernhard Sulzer
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Proposed translations
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Strange....
bezug Strange...
I just wonder where all the ENS are; I certainly think this is somewhere that ENS's are needed!
As one of them, I'd say there is not much doubt that the writer meant that "Public policy has to give.....methods, and (public policy has) to continue providing services to the rural environment.
I'm not saying this is well written at all; nevertheless, I don't think the writer would have suggested that farmers should continue providing services to the rural environment - that's not what farmers do, now is it?
I just wonder where all the ENS are; I certainly think this is somewhere that ENS's are needed!
As one of them, I'd say there is not much doubt that the writer meant that "Public policy has to give.....methods, and (public policy has) to continue providing services to the rural environment.
I'm not saying this is well written at all; nevertheless, I don't think the writer would have suggested that farmers should continue providing services to the rural environment - that's not what farmers do, now is it?
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Bernhard Sulzer
: def. sounds strange and further info from the client might be needed. See also my thoughts.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Vielen Dank, David, und an alle anderen!"
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Ruth Ahrens
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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United Kingdom
Training Marketing IT – DipTrans & MITI
Native in: German (Variant: Germany) 
Works in: English to German, French to German
Möglichkeit b
Nach dem, was ich kürzlich auf BBC, Radio 4 gehört habe, stimme ich auch Möglichkeit 2 zu. Anscheinend ist es im Moment hier ein aktuelles Thema, dass Landwirte Mittel für die Landschaftspflege benötigen, die wohl gerade mal wieder gekürzt wurden, wenn ich es richtig erinnere.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Carolin Haase
: ja
41 mins
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| agree |
BrigitteHilgner
: So sehe ich das auch.
2 hrs
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+2
1 hr
Katja Schoone
Germany
Germany
Native in German
Germany
DIN EN15038 registered
Native in: German
Works in: English to German, Spanish to German
Related KudoZ points
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12
Nr. 2
für Steffen ;-)
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Carolin Haase
: genau
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Danke Carolin
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| agree |
BrigitteHilgner
: So verstehe ich das auch.
1 hr
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Danke schön Brigitte
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2 hrs
English term (edited):
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bezug: UND
hab zwar schon geantwortet, aber so wie ich es grundsätzlich verstand. -ausgangstext-
mit den möglichkeiten a) b) kann ich wenig anfangen,
in beiden wird das -, and- nie einbezogen:
mit diesen [...] -ohne je das "and" würde ich beide mit einem "um zu" lesen...
aber ich denke hier geht es darum, den Landwirten die richtige Unterstützung zu geben und weitere Maßnahmen zum Schutz der ländlichen Umgebung zu ergreifen.
mit den möglichkeiten a) b) kann ich wenig anfangen,
in beiden wird das -, and- nie einbezogen:
mit diesen [...] -ohne je das "and" würde ich beide mit einem "um zu" lesen...
aber ich denke hier geht es darum, den Landwirten die richtige Unterstützung zu geben und weitere Maßnahmen zum Schutz der ländlichen Umgebung zu ergreifen.
Peer comment(s):
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BrigitteHilgner
: Es nutzt nichts - mit dieser Lösung kann ich mich nicht anfreunden; ich denke nicht, dass es so gemeint ist.
32 mins
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ich schon, denn es geht darum, dass die Landwirte ihre Strukturen anpassen, entsprechend Unterstützung bekommen UND weitere Massnahmen ergriffen werden müssen. ... es geht um beides: UNTERSTÜTZUNG UND WEITERENTWICKLUNG
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13 hrs
Bernhard Sulzer
United States
United States
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United States
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Native in: German
Works in: English to German, German to English, German, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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12
Number 1 (but ask the client)
I would expect a "...and must continue (to provide) services..." for it to be grammatically sound. Then I rather lean towards poss. # 1, whereby public policy must continue to provide services (as in healthcare services, access to education , jobs, etc. just a few examples) to rural environments as opposed to metropolitan areas. I don't think this relates to the condition of the land, but to the needs of the rural population for many services.
Please consider this as my ideas really, and not as a "sure" answer. I would go with David, it does sound strange and further info from the client might be needed.
:)
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Note added at 13 hrs (2008-03-13 02:13:11 GMT)
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http://som.flinders.edu.au/FUSA/GP-Evidence/rural/cps/PDFs/M...
healthcare services to the rural environment (mentions study findings from Australia).
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Note added at 15 hrs (2008-03-13 03:58:24 GMT)
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MEANT TO SAY -- THESE ARE MY THOUGHTS
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Note added at 17 hrs (2008-03-13 05:23:55 GMT)
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how about that for what it could read:
Public policy has to give the right support to enable farmers to adapt their farm structures and production methods, and it has to give the right support to continue providing services to the rural environment.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2008-03-13 05:33:40 GMT)
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still not it.
maybe:
...production methods, and it must support the continuation of providing services to the rural environment.
Please consider this as my ideas really, and not as a "sure" answer. I would go with David, it does sound strange and further info from the client might be needed.
:)
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Note added at 13 hrs (2008-03-13 02:13:11 GMT)
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http://som.flinders.edu.au/FUSA/GP-Evidence/rural/cps/PDFs/M...
healthcare services to the rural environment (mentions study findings from Australia).
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Note added at 15 hrs (2008-03-13 03:58:24 GMT)
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MEANT TO SAY -- THESE ARE MY THOUGHTS
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Note added at 17 hrs (2008-03-13 05:23:55 GMT)
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how about that for what it could read:
Public policy has to give the right support to enable farmers to adapt their farm structures and production methods, and it has to give the right support to continue providing services to the rural environment.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2008-03-13 05:33:40 GMT)
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still not it.
maybe:
...production methods, and it must support the continuation of providing services to the rural environment.
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