Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Czech term or phrase:
řezané polotmavé výčepní
English translation:
mixed light/dark draught
Added to glossary by
Pavel Blann
Oct 10, 2008 09:01
15 yrs ago
Czech term
řezané polotmavé výčepní
Czech to English
Marketing
Food & Drink
beer
The original source text is Czech, but I am working from the English version (into Latvian). However, I cannot make heads or tails from this sentence and cannot know if it is a mistranslation or what. Perhaps you can offer a better English version or simply an explanation. Thanks a lot in advance!
CZ: Charakteristika jednotlivých skupin
Světlé výčepní
stupňovitost 10%, středně prokvašené pivo zlaté barvy, střední hořkost a říz
- řezané polotmavé výčepní - stupňovitost 10%, středně prokvašené pivo polotmavé barvy, typicky slabě karamelové chuti, střední říz a plná chuť
EN: Description of individual categories
[..]
“cut” amber “tap” beer (řezané polotmavé výčepní) - gravity 10%, medium-fermented beer with an amber colour, typical mild caramel taste, medium sharpness and full flavour.
CZ: Charakteristika jednotlivých skupin
Světlé výčepní
stupňovitost 10%, středně prokvašené pivo zlaté barvy, střední hořkost a říz
- řezané polotmavé výčepní - stupňovitost 10%, středně prokvašené pivo polotmavé barvy, typicky slabě karamelové chuti, střední říz a plná chuť
EN: Description of individual categories
[..]
“cut” amber “tap” beer (řezané polotmavé výčepní) - gravity 10%, medium-fermented beer with an amber colour, typical mild caramel taste, medium sharpness and full flavour.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +3 | mixed light/dark draught |
Pavel Blann
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| 4 +4 | black and tan draft (beer) |
Scott Evan Andrews
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| 4 +1 | mixture of Bauskas gaišais and Bauskas tumšais - 50/50 |
Gerry Vickers
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| 4 | cooper |
Sarka Rubkova
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Change log
Oct 11, 2008 20:40: Pavel Blann Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
+3
2 hrs
Selected
mixed light/dark draught
actually, "řezané polotmavé" is a bit redundant since "řezané" is always "polotmavé" and vice versa (when talking about beer).
breweries may prefer "polotmavé" while beer lovers are ordering "řezané" from both light and dark taps.
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Note added at 2 h (2008-10-10 11:47:37 GMT)
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p.s. depending on the kinds of light/dark beer, amber may not be the resulting color. "draft" is usually better than "tap". "black and tan" refers to an english environment where the light/dark beer do not mix.
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Note added at 4 h (2008-10-10 13:55:13 GMT)
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Scott is right about the dark-amber hue so instead of "light/dark" or "semidark", "amber" or "dark-amber" can be used in this answer, too.
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Note added at 1 den11 h (2008-10-11 20:57:35 GMT) Post-grading
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you're very welcome. I agree Scott and Gerry deserve some points, too. unfortunately, there is not enough users requesting a point-splitting feature, see www.proz.com/ticket/60713?pwd=85934b7cc3
breweries may prefer "polotmavé" while beer lovers are ordering "řezané" from both light and dark taps.
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Note added at 2 h (2008-10-10 11:47:37 GMT)
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p.s. depending on the kinds of light/dark beer, amber may not be the resulting color. "draft" is usually better than "tap". "black and tan" refers to an english environment where the light/dark beer do not mix.
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Note added at 4 h (2008-10-10 13:55:13 GMT)
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Scott is right about the dark-amber hue so instead of "light/dark" or "semidark", "amber" or "dark-amber" can be used in this answer, too.
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Note added at 1 den11 h (2008-10-11 20:57:35 GMT) Post-grading
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you're very welcome. I agree Scott and Gerry deserve some points, too. unfortunately, there is not enough users requesting a point-splitting feature, see www.proz.com/ticket/60713?pwd=85934b7cc3
Reference:
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you all very much for the explanations and the lively discussion. This is one of the cases I regret that we cannot split the points. :) "
+4
12 mins
Scott Evan Andrews
United States
United States
Native in English
Works in field
United States
31 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE!
Native in: English 
Works in: Czech to English, Slovak to English
Related KudoZ points
:
16
black and tan draft (beer)
commonly understood as a black and tan / Czechs sometimes translate it as a "cut" beer.
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-10-10 10:38:14 GMT)
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Pavel's right about the black and tan, which stay separated. But this beer is a 50/50 mix of a typical Czech (pale) lager and what may I think be termed a bock (dark) beer, and they infuse to form a dark-amber hue. So black and tan may indeed be misleading. Unless we coin the phrase "Czech black and tan", essentially differentiating it into a separate thing altogether. interesting link: http://www.xs4all.nl/~patto1ro/czecintr.htm#stylesnow
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-10-10 10:38:14 GMT)
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Pavel's right about the black and tan, which stay separated. But this beer is a 50/50 mix of a typical Czech (pale) lager and what may I think be termed a bock (dark) beer, and they infuse to form a dark-amber hue. So black and tan may indeed be misleading. Unless we coin the phrase "Czech black and tan", essentially differentiating it into a separate thing altogether. interesting link: http://www.xs4all.nl/~patto1ro/czecintr.htm#stylesnow
Reference:
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Elizabeth Spacilova
: I think Czech (or Bohemian) black and tan is perfectly suitable. It is half Bohemian pale lager and half dark lager, sans layer effect.
1 hr
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| neutral |
Pavel Blann
: yes, the dutch link is interesting: "Řizek" as beer is news to me, e.g.
2 hrs
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| agree |
Igor Liba
5 hrs
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| agree |
Rad Graban (X)
: To pour a perfect black and tan is not an easy thing and you often end up with pint of dark-amber coloured stuff which is still called black and tan.
6 hrs
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| agree |
Dana Hollcroft
7 hrs
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5 hrs
Sarka Rubkova
Czech Republic
Czech Republic
Native in Czech
Works in field
Czech Republic
20 years with technical translations
Native in: Czech
Works in: English to Czech, Slovak to Czech, Czech to English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
4
cooper
I think this is what you have in mind. My English friends explained me that this is řezané pivo
+1
12 hrs
Gerry Vickers
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
A REAL English native speaker!
Native in: English
Works in: Czech to English, Slovak to English
Related KudoZ points
:
8
mixture of Bauskas gaišais and Bauskas tumšais - 50/50
Is it clearer now? :)
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