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French term

poutre médiane

French to English Tech/Engineering Architecture
Description of a tourism residence (i.e. serviced apartments).

The building has 4 floors including the ground floor

"...
Un volume VI de forme irrégulière pour la création d'emplacements de stationnements accessibles depuis la parcelle riveraine cadastrée section AN 000 d'une surface de base de quatre cent cinq-vingt-quatre mètres carrés (584 m3) composé de deux (2) fractions de volume communiquant entre elles mais ayant des limitations hautes différentes
a) Une première fraction V1a d'une surface de base de soixante-dix mètres carrés (70 m2) ayant :
- pour limite horizontale le contour périmétrique passant par les points 2-3-4-2,
- pour limite haute, la cote NGF 235.70,
- pour limite basse, sans limitation (tréfonds).
b) Une deuxième fraction VIb d'une surface de base de cinq cent quatorze mètres carrés (514 m2) ayant :
- pour limite horizontale le contour périmétrique passant par les points 1-2-4-5-6-7-1,
- pour limite haute, la cote NGF 237.80 (dessous de la poutre médiane la plus basse),
- pour limite basse, sans limitation (tréfonds)
..."

Discussion

Mpoma (asker) Jul 27, 2023:
Central beam ... finally used (Tony M's suggestion)
Conor McAuley Jul 25, 2023:
I would have been tempted to say don't sweat it, but there seems to be something quite technical going on, since there are several of these things, since the one in question is "la plus basse".

Diagram from client required methinks!
Yassine El Bouknify Jul 24, 2023:
It's challenging since there are many types of beams

Cross beam" being part of GRP pipe machine ND 400/3000 MM consisting of:Accessories
Transfer beam-
Cross beam-
Top cross beam-
Mobile frame- "

https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-sam...
Bourth Jul 24, 2023:
intermediate beam A mid-span or central beam would be one crossing a building at its centre, in one of the two horiz. directions. Given that here we have dessous de la poutre médiane la plus basse, there must be more than one beam. Presumably both are not located centrally (though that IS possible). If there are 2 such beams, it would be logical for them to be located at the two one-third points. Presumably also they are not new or standardized dimensions such as steel beams would be, but old timber beams whose depth may vary.
Johannes Gleim Jul 24, 2023:
@ Mpoma Je pense qu'au vu de la discussion passionnée, nous avons besoin de plus de contexte pour éclaircir le mystère de cette "poutre médiane".

À quoi ressemble le toit ? S'agit-il d'un toit plat (toiture en terrasse) ou d'un toit en selle (à deux versants ou pans), d'un toiture en appentis, (a une pente), d'un comble brisé (à la Mansart, à quatre pans) ou autre ?
Où se trouve cette poutre ? S'agit-il d'une poutre de soutien verticale ou d'une poutre de faîtage (arête du toit) horizontale ?

Dans l'exemple ci-dessous, on trouve une "poutre centrale" :

Côté Est du réfectoire, la poutre centrale a volontairement été coupée à son extrémité et reste un mystère non élucidé. | OUEST-FRANCE
https://www.ouest-france.fr/culture/patrimoine/apres-la-chap...
Johannes Gleim Jul 24, 2023:
@ Kim You missed to google some terms:

"poutre médiane" 1,070 results
"poutre intermédiaire" 2,220 results
(Note: I assume that the editor mismatched French terms).
Cf. aussi :
"mediate beam" 446 results
"poutre centrale" -escalier 103.000 results

Vous pouvez déduire de ce qui précède que « poutre médiane » et 'mediate beam' sont des expressions rares en français comme en anglais, et que le terme français correct pourrait être « poutre centrale » ou un terme similaire.
Kim Metzger Jul 23, 2023:
Google hits "center beam" - About 2,000,000 results
"centre beam" About 189,000 results
"central beam" About 214,000 results
"middle beam" - About 89,300 results
"intermediate beam" - About 31,500 results

Proposed translations

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median beam / middle beam

EP0294266B1 - Support structure for the construction of multi ...
https://patents.google.com › patent
In this context and according to a second embodiment, the median beams of the two pieces which protrude from the lateral beams by half their length are ...

milla - Habitat et jardin.com
https://www.habitatetjardin.com › techniques
PDF
Placer la poutre médiane D sur les poutres avant et arrière C. EN: 14. Place the middle beam D on the front and rear beams C.

poutre médiane - Translation into English - examples French ...
https://context.reverso.net › translation › poutre+médiane
un bloc de construction cellulaire qui comprend une poutre médiane et deux pieds. a cellular building block including a middle beam and two legs.
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mid-span beam

mid-span beam" or "centerline beam."

A "mid-span beam" is a horizontal structural element that runs through the center of a building or a structural system, dividing the space vertically. It supports the load from above and transfers it to the surrounding columns or supports.
https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-sam...
Peer comment(s):

agree Daryo
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neutral Thomas Miles : How are 'mid-span' and 'centreline' synonymous as you suggest? They don't refer to the same type of 'middle'.
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intermediate beam

"intermediate beam" About 23,600 results (0.33 seconds)

• Place the wooden form that you used for the lower beam between the already poured columns to form the intermediate beam or top beam, depending on where you are in the construction process
https://bottleschools.org/chapter-3/intermediate-and-top-bea...

Intermediate Beam (Old Style) Full Depth
Category: Ceiling Beams
£315.14
Dimensions: Length: 3720mm, Width: 150mm, Depth: 150mm
An Intermediate Beam simply cut in half for a shallower depth.
https://www.ukhomeinteriors.co.uk/product/intermediate-beam-...

Floor plan with one intermediate beam
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Floor-plan-with-one-inte...

The need for an intermediate beam in a room depends on several factors, such as the size and shape of the room, the type and weight of the materials used in the construction, and the intended use of the space. In general, an intermediate beam would be required if the span of the room exceeds the maximum span for the type of construction and materials that are being used. For example, in a standard residential construction using dimensional lumber, the maximum span for a 2x10 joist is roughly 15 feet. If the span of your 14x19 room exceeds this distance, an intermediate beam would be necessary to support the joists and prevent sagging or collapse.
https://www.quora.com/Is-an-intermediate-beam-required-or-no...

If the intermediate beam supporting the lounge and hallway (beam from A to B, between 1 and 2) is 250 mm x 500 mm, and the girder supports are 300 mm x 600 mm, calculate the required spacing of 10-mm-diameter stirrups Grade 230 MPa at the critical section for shear.
https://www.chegg.com/homework-help/questions-and-answers/in...

The Hybridbeam® BHM is designed as an intermediate beam with two steel flanges which allow precast floor slabs to be instantly supported. It enables immediate slab assembly once the beams are in position on walls or columns. Installation is continued using continuity reinforcement passed through holes in the Hybridbeam®. The composite beam, if used as the intermediate beam, is marked with the symbol BHM.
https://www.pfeifer.info/en/products-services/products/hybri...

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Encore un brevet français traduit en anglais, dans lequel l'expression française « poutre intermédiaire » est également traduite par « intermediate beam ».

According to embodiments, the support structure further comprises a circular beam delimiting the periphery of the support structure, intermediate beams being arranged between the square furthest from the center and the circular beam …
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2013182771A1/en
Selon des modes de réalisation, la structure de support comporte en outre une poutre circulaire délimitant la périphérie de la structure de support, des poutres intermédiaires étant agencées entre le carré le plus éloigné du centre et la poutre circulaire, …
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2013182771A1/fr

Traduction contextuelle :
- has an upper elevation at NGF 237.80 (lower surface of the intermediate beam),
Peer comment(s):

agree Bourth : See my comments in Discussion
19 hrs
Thank you! Perfect!
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Reference comments

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Reference:

other context

https://hiddenshell.ru/fr/kak-zakryt-balku-v-derevyannom-dom...

Première étape - préparer le plafond pour la modification.

L'un des plus difficiles, parce que. poutres (copeaux) effondrées divers degrés.
Cela a été facilement vérifié en mesurant avec un ruban à mesurer du sol aux poutres en cinq points de la pièce (aux coins et au milieu).
L'affaissement le plus fort s'est formé sur la poutre médiane.

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I think this = middle beam

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http://rcppm.org/download/biblio/Peyron_beziers-2-charpentes...

Une poutre médiane longitudinale supporte le plafond ", assemblée à deux poutres transversales d'égale hauteur (0,80 m) qui s'assemblent avec les sablières. Les ...
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https://4215292.app.netsuite.com/core/media/media.nl?id=2718...


see I 8

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Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Tony M : I'd prefer 'central beam'
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