Feb 2, 2023 17:34
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Dutch term

geen BCR-ABL fusiegenen passend bij t(9,22)

Dutch to English Medical Medical (general) bone marrow test results
Can anyone help me with the sense of this please?
I see that we talk about "BCR-ABL fusion genes" in English but what do they mean by the "passend bij t(9,22)"?
It comes in a footnote on the "Uitslag moleculaire diagnostiek" under "Conclusie PCR Diagno"

Discussion

Charles Stanford (asker) Feb 7, 2023:
All the same Barend, fair is fair and you were first I now see. I am sure Jakub will not mind. There is no moderator but I have sent a message to the site staff
Barend van Zadelhoff Feb 7, 2023:
Save yourself the trouble, Charles.
It suffices to me that you recognize the 'inconsistency'. :-)

This whole Kudoz game is designed from the perspective of competition (being first, being best [providing the best answer], winning points, boosting your profile).
And I fall for it, I want to win.
It's a vulnerability, it may induce a 'Calimero effect'. :-)
Charles Stanford (asker) Feb 7, 2023:
I see that your "consistent with" was indeed ahead of Jakub's (I did not spot that that came as an addition after 12 mins), so in the interests of fairness I will see if I can reallocate the points
Barend van Zadelhoff Feb 7, 2023:
I guess Jakub's 'consistent with' was independently offered of mine, but I was first :-) and I was the one who substantiated their answer, don't you agree?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77HpxfMTJL8 :-)
Charles Stanford (asker) Feb 7, 2023:
Yes Barend, "consistent with" was the issue, but Jakub did provide that as well. I realise of course that your answer was completely independent and I'm very grateful for the extra research you performed. I wish I could split the points but I can't
Barend van Zadelhoff Feb 7, 2023:
It's up to you, Charles.
But a couple of points.
- 'translocation' was not the problem, 'passend bij' was the question, everyone knows that 't(9,22)' stands for a translocation.
- I arrived at my answer independently, was busy gathering evidence while the other answer was posted.
- I gathered evidence in order to explain why 'consistent with' could be used. I mean, that's the point, no?

Proposed translations

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translocation (9,22)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3054349/

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Note added at 12 mins (2023-02-02 17:47:07 GMT)
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No BCR-ABL fusion genes consistent with translocation (9,22).
Note from asker:
Also really helpful – many thanks
Hi Jakub. According to ProZ, to reallocate the points to Barend (see the discusson) I need your agreement. Would you be willing to provide it?
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks Jabub"
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no BCR-ABL fusion genes consistent with the t(9;22) translocation

I think you could solve it this way.

Genomic instability is an important underlying pathophysiological mechanism in chronic myeloid leukemia (CML). It results in formation of the Philadelphia
chromosome (Ph, t(9;22)(q34;q11)/BCR-ABL1) with various breakpoints and variant translocations, but also additional chromosomal abnormalities, and mutations in and outside the BCR-ABL1 kinase domain.
Understanding the diversity of chromosomal and molecular manifestations in CML is of importance for the clinician.

https://www.cmylife.nl/sites/default/files/2021-09/NTvH Gene...

The hallmark of chronic myeloid leukemia (CML) is the BCR-ABL fusion gene, which is usually formed as a result of the t(9;22) translocation.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10648381/
Note from asker:
Really helpful
Went with Jakub's answer because he was first Barend, but thanks for that extra information - really helpful
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49 mins

tandheelkunde

Hallo,
Ik ben Belgisch staatsburger, geboren in Brussel. Ik ben al 40 jaar tandarts
Peer comment(s):

neutral writeaway : sérieusement?
22 hrs
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