Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

es la principal arteria de la gran urbe mexicana

English translation:

is the main thoroughfare of the greater Mexico City area

Added to glossary by Marcelo González
Aug 5, 2021 08:09
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Spanish term

es la principal arteria de la gran urbe Mexicana.

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I would like to know the best translation of this phrase from American English into Mexican Spanish. Translator colleagues from Spain, feel free to send me your suggestions in European Spanish.

It's a translation about education.

Here is the full paragraph:

El Paseo de la Reforma es la principal arteria de la gran urbe Mexicana.

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Aug 12, 2021 07:48: Marcelo González Created KOG entry

Discussion

José Patrício Aug 8, 2021:
Cheers
Marcelo González Aug 8, 2021:
@José - metaphor I think there may be a question regarding usage and whether something as metaphorical as 'arteria' --- clearly evocative of human biology --- can be translated literally and sound equally natural in English. Growing up in the greater New York-New Jersey area (ojo: sin mayúscula alguna), I never heard or read anything metaphorical in this context of roads ... but the idea of a main road or thoroughfare, I did (and often, too). I hope you're safe and sound in Portugal!! Cheers from Vietnam :-)
David Hollywood Aug 8, 2021:
this will be fun
José Patrício Aug 5, 2021:
Why not?
philgoddard Aug 5, 2021:
Artery is correct English on both sides of the Atlantic. But I don't agree with either of José's answers.
polyglot45 Aug 5, 2021:
artery ????? !!!! I don't think so - not in European English
José Patrício Aug 5, 2021:
OK
yugoslavia (asker) Aug 5, 2021:
Thanks for your help Jose Patricio.
I appreciate it.
Yugoslavia
José Patrício Aug 5, 2021:
It's the great Mexican city principal artery.
It's the principal artery of the great Mexican city.

Proposed translations

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Spanish term (edited): es la principal arteria de la gran urbe Mexicana.
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is the main/primary thoroughfare of the greater Mexico City area

I'd say 'thoroughfare' in this context.

As for 'gran,' I think the idea of 'greater' may cover it, as seen in the example below and the link to a G-search.

Exposure to PM 2.5 and Obesity Prevalence in the Greater ...https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › ...
by M Tamayo-Ortiz · 2021 — Exposure to PM 2.5 has been associated with the prevalence of obesity. In the Greater Mexico City Area (GMCA), both are ranked among the ...

"great Mexico City area"
About 13,800 results (0.82 seconds)
https://www.google.com/search?q="greater mexico city area"&o...

I hope this helps! Y saludos desde Vietnam :-)

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Collins English Dictionary
thoroughfare (n.)
A thoroughfare is a main road in a town or city which usually has shops along it and a lot of traffic.
[formal]
...a busy thoroughfare.
Synonyms: road, way, street, highway More Synonyms of thoroughfare
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/thoroug...

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With respect to possible adjectives, 'main,' 'principal,' and 'primary' all work, as does 'major,' i.e., 'a major thoroughfare...' as seen below in the context of the 'greater' Los Angeles area).

Warriors: Spiritually Engaged - Page 6 - Google Books Resulthttps://books.google.com.vn › books
Queenae Taylor Mulvihill · 2006 · ‎Performing Arts
News from the **greater Los Angeles area** also placed damage around the city and part of Interstate 10, **a major thoroughfare** (the southernmost freeway that ...

Inventing Autopia: Dreams and Visions of the Modern ...https://books.google.com.vn › books
Jeremiah B.C. Axelrod · 2009 · ‎History
e decentralized landscape of **Greater Los Angeles** thus proved fertile ground ... serviced by a major thoroughfare, it was **a major thoroughfare** serving as a ...

Planning and Place in the City: Mapping Place Identityhttps://books.google.com.vn › books
Marichela Sepe · 2013 · ‎Architecture
The case study was carried out on **a major thoroughfare**, South Broadway, in a representative downtown area of Los Angeles. The street is known for its ...

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My pleasure, yugoslavia!

Regards from Vietnam :-)
Note from asker:
Thank you so much Marcelo. I appreciate it.
Peer comment(s):

agree neilmac : I like 'thoroughfare' too...
6 hrs
Thanks, Neil. And yes, 'thoroughfare' works, and with several adjectives, including 'major'
agree Michele Fauble
10 hrs
Thanks, Michele, and regards
agree Robert Forstag : "Main thoroughfare."
1 day 1 hr
Thanks, Robert. Yes, I prefer that one too :-)
agree ormiston : Maybe 'in' rather than 'of'
1 day 10 hrs
Thanks, ormiston. In this context, I'd say 'of' sounds very natural in English, and matches perfectly the use of 'de' in the source text, and without any slight change (or 'shift') in meaning or perspective.
neutral David Hollywood : well despite all the agrees, I beg to differ
2 days 17 hrs
Hello David. Care to elaborate?
agree Marjory Hord
4 days
Thanks, Marjory :-)
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is Mexico City's main artery

I think this is simpler and better.

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If this avenue is the main artery of Mexico City, and it is, then the city is suffering from serious cardiovascular disease.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g150800-d152798...
Note from asker:
Thanks a lot.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Marjory Hord : I've never heard artery used that way.
4 days
So because Marjory Hord hasn't heard of it, it's wrong.
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is the main arterial roadway into Greater Mexico City

The primary function of arterial roadways is the provision of through traffic movement. The extent of access control on arterial roadways will vary from municipality to municipality, depending upon the relative roadway priority of serving through traffic versus local traffic.

Greater Mexico City is the largest metropolitan area in Mexico and the area with the highest population density. According to the 2020 ...
‎Definition · ‎Subdivisions · ‎Economy · ‎Demographics

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or: the Greater Mexico City area

Greater Mexico City refers to the conurbation around Mexico City, officially called Metropolitan Area of the Valley of Mexico It encompasses Mexico City ...

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or: the Mexico City Metropolitan Area

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suena mejor en inglés

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and "artery" is actually better in English

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see which better fits your text "arterial road/artery"
Note from asker:
Muchas gracias David.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Marcelo González : With all due respect, 'main arterial roadway' seems (a bit) forced, and certainly not as commonly used and natural-sounding as 'main thoroughfare.' Also, there's the questionable use of capitalization. Is this not a departure from the source text?
2 days 11 hrs
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