Apr 4, 2021 15:36
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French term

en passage en coupure

French to English Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering Réseaux de distribution électriques
Happy Easter everyone !
I am hoping that someone can help me with this expression. Context is a Project for the Rehabilitation and Extension of Electrical Networks.

"Consistance du projet
Fourniture et installation de :
54 postes MT/BT tous équipés de transformateurs de 630 KVA dont 13 *****en passage en coupure***** ;
18 Km de ligne aérienne de 20 kv en 148 mm2;
19 km de ligne aérienne de 20 kv en 54,6 mm2 ; 210 km de réseau BT pure 3x70+54+1x16mm2;..."

Any help would be greatly appreciated !
Cheers,
Jeff

Discussion

Jeffrey Henson (asker) Apr 8, 2021:
Thanks ! Thanks Tony, Bashiqa, Emmanuella, Saeed and Johannes for your helpful comments !
Johannes Gleim Apr 6, 2021:
@ Jeffrey Saeed’s reference below sounds good to me. I considered 'feed loop', but did not inverse the term. I found another reliable reference:

Loop feed Transformers will have six high voltage bushings (H1A, H2A, H3A, H1B, H2B, and H3B). There are two bushings for each phase. This allows the customer to connect all of their Transformers in a loop configuration. It will also allow the customer to bring two feeds to the Transformer. A four position switch can be used to switch between the A feed and the B feed.
https://www.se.com/us/en/faqs/FA118532/

Hence we can phrase like this:
54 MV/LV substations all equipped with 630 KVA transformers, 13 of which are connected in a loop configuration; or looped.
Saeed Najmi Apr 5, 2021:
Pour l'expliquer en language courant, un circuit monté ''en passage en coupure'' appelé également ''en boucle(s)'', est un circuit qui, en cas de panne ou de nécessité de coupure pour entretien ou autres travaux sur les transformateurs et les postes du circuit, laisse quand même passer le courant dans la partie qui reste alimentée. Ce système nécessite au moins deux postes/générateurs pour que, si coupure il y a d'un coté, le passage du courant est assuré de l'autre. Cette conception de circuit est dite ''loop feed''. D'ailleurs le sens du terme ''loop'' justifie son usage pour désigner ce genre de circuits. Le schéma 2 b illustre un montage en passage en coupure/en boucle ou en anglais en loop.
https://electrical-engineering-portal.com/important-primary-...
Bashiqa Apr 5, 2021:
@ Tony Must admit long time since I had anything to do with star-delta connections for motors, i.e. 50 years ish, the suggestion about loop feed made me think of delta connections.
Tony M Apr 5, 2021:
@ Chris Sadly, no — star / delta is a specifically 3-phase notion, which is not what this connection scheme is usually specifically about
Fraid i haven't been able to open the site you mentioned below.
Bashiqa Apr 5, 2021:
@ Tony Are these in fact connected in Delta format as opposed to Star?
I.e. they can be supplied from either end?
Bashiqa Apr 4, 2021:
@ Tony Here`s the site I`d looked at
https://www.groupe-cahors.com/sites/default/files/pdf_coffre...
have a look, Chris.
Tony M Apr 4, 2021:
Search archive Please try searhing the archive for the configuration known as 'en coupure'. The concept is quite difficult to grasp, but has been explained at length befrore. I have never yet found a wholly satisfactory concise way of expressing this in EN

Proposed translations

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loop feed

Systems Configuration Section:
A loop system is fed by two different feeders – one connected to each end of the loop. Theoretically, the entire loop of transformers could be fed by either source, or the transformers can be split up between the two sources, depending on where an “open point” is created. In the event of a failed underground cable, this open point is “moved” (by using load-break switches or elbows), so that no customers are out of power while the cable is repaired.

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https://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/products/medium-voltage-power...

Under Section System configurations

''A Radial System employs one dedicated transformer to serve a customer or group of customers. The drawback is the fact that if there is a failure in the distribution line all of the customers downstream from the problem are without power.''


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For further readings, hook to the link below:
https://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/site-search.searchTerm$loop%20feed%20.tabs$all.html

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Or follow the path below:
1. //www.eaton.com/ 2. Go to products then to medium-voltage power distribution and control systems, then medium-voltage transformers and click on Learn more. Scroll down to System Configurations.

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Either A/ with 13 in loop feed configuration or B/ 13 of which are in loop feed configuration.
Note from asker:
Thanks so much for your help Saeed. So how should I phrase that in English : 54 MV/LV substations all equipped with 630 KVA transformers, - 13 of which have a loop feed configuration ? - including 13 loop feed transformers ? - something totally different ? Thanks again !
Peer comment(s):

agree Schtroumpf : This one seems to confirm your answer: https://webstore.iec.ch/p-preview/info_iec60598-1{ed7.0}b.pd...
2 days 21 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks so much for your help, Saeed ! The end client confirmed that it was "connected in a loop configuration"."
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switched

Transformers complete with switching device for isolation of circuit.
Note from asker:
Thanks for your help, Bashiqa !
Peer comment(s):

disagree Tony M : Sorry Chris, this is a nice idea, but not what it actually means in this context. It's the 'passage en... that makes the difference here
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Ooh, i`d better have a look once I`ve finished off the chocolate.
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connected in sequence or daisy-chain mode (or in line, or by tapping)

I spent several hours first looking for references for this rare term and then for suitable translations for it. Most of the references referred to feedthroughs (bushings), which do not apply here. Finally, I got some circumscriptions.

Coffret de distribution type passage en coupure en charge PCC
https://www.groupe-cahors.com/fr-coteivoire/coffret-de-distr...
(Note: Example for non-pertinent applications)

Norme Française NF C 17-200
24 septembre 2016
C 17-200
Installations électriques extérieures
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Figure 54D Mise à la terre par passage en coupure et connexion dans le CANDELABRE
Dans tous les cas, il est recommandé que la partie du conducteur assurant la mise à la terre du CANDELABRE située en dehors du sol ait une longueur suffisante afin de ne pas risquer d'être rompu en cas de renversement accidentel du CANDELABRE
https://docplayer.fr/74882403-Nf-c-septembre-2016-c.html
Note: Fig. 54 D shows all protective conductor terminals connected in series, i.e. that all terminals are connected by handing over the continuous protective earth conductor or by tapping or connecting the conductor in line or series.
I understand: Figure 54D Earthing by connecting the LIGHT POLES in line or sequence

Le branchement HT comprend : -le départ et la ligne aérienne raccordée soit à une centrale ou à une sous- station où la tension HT est disponible, soit en passage en coupure sur la ligne la plus proche, devant être équipée impérativement de protections de la ligne compatibles avec celles déjà existantes sur l’ensemble du réseau.
http://www.ore.mg/TextesDoc/Arrete_no86-88 MIEM.pdf

My approach: The HV connection includes: -the feeder and the overhead line connected either to a power plant or a substation where HV voltage is available, or by looping through (connecting) to the nearest line, which must be equipped with line protection compatible with that already existing on the entire network

A line tap is any connection made to a transmission or distribution power line in parallel called a feeder. It will have some sort of fused or breakered disconnect. Here is a schematic of a substation. I have circled in blue all the line taps.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-a-line-tap-For-example-may-a-s...

In electrical and electronic engineering, a daisy chain is a wiring scheme in which multiple devices are wired together in sequence or in a ring,[1] similar to a garland of daisy flowers. Other than a full, single loop, systems which contain internal loops cannot be called daisy chains.[citation needed]
Daisy chains may be used for power, analog signals, digital data, or a combination thereof.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_chain_(electrical_engine...
(Note: 'Daisy chain' is used mostly in electronics, but I consider it being applicable in our power electricity context as well)

A daisy chain connection has little resemblance to a daisy flower, at least not visually. In electronics, a daisy chain connection involves connecting multiple devices sequentially in an uninterrupted cable connection. Depending on the requirements, the last device on the loop may or may not connect to the first.
https://resources.altium.com/p/keep-petals-optimizing-daisy-...

The range of voltages in a power system varies from 110 V up to 765 kV. Transformation may take place in several stages and at several substations in sequence, …
https://academickids.com/encyclopedia/index.php/Electrical_s...

54 postes MT/BT tous équipés de transformateurs de 630 KVA dont 13 en passage en coupure;
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54 MV/LV substations all equipped with 630 KVA transformers, 13 of which are connected in sequence or daisy-chain mode;

Note: 'Connecting in line or series or sequence' or 'by tapping' may also work, but I consider the daisy-chain method being more figuratively.
Note from asker:
Thanks so much for you helpful links and all your research, Johannes !
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