Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Kommunikanten
English translation:
Holy Communions administered
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Timoshka
Feb 18, 2021 00:41
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German term
Kommunikanten
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A short history of an Evangelical Lutheran parish in Nebraska, written in 1920, includes the following:
Parochialbericht vom Jahre 1919:
484 Seelen. 286 Kommunizierende. 78 Stimmberechtigte. 1 Schule. 1 Lehrer. 40 Schulkinder. 160 Schultage. 17 Getauft. 12 Konfirmiert. 500 Kommunikanten. 3 Paare getraut. 2 Begraben.
My question is: What is the difference between "Kommunizierende" and "Kommunikanten"? I understand "Kommunizierende" to be "communicants," i.e. those entitled to partake of Holy Communion. 286 of the 484 members of the parish are thus communicants. However, the list also includes "500 Kommunikanten" (more than the total number of parishioners!), so what/who could they be?
Parochialbericht vom Jahre 1919:
484 Seelen. 286 Kommunizierende. 78 Stimmberechtigte. 1 Schule. 1 Lehrer. 40 Schulkinder. 160 Schultage. 17 Getauft. 12 Konfirmiert. 500 Kommunikanten. 3 Paare getraut. 2 Begraben.
My question is: What is the difference between "Kommunizierende" and "Kommunikanten"? I understand "Kommunizierende" to be "communicants," i.e. those entitled to partake of Holy Communion. 286 of the 484 members of the parish are thus communicants. However, the list also includes "500 Kommunikanten" (more than the total number of parishioners!), so what/who could they be?
Proposed translations
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| 4 | Holy Communions administered |
Lancashireman
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| 4 | communion takers |
Cillie Swart
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| 3 | adherents |
David Hollywood
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| 3 | communicants |
Kevin Fulton
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Proposed translations
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Selected
Holy Communions administered
I hope this Google Books link opens for you:
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=b5oZAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA10-PA9...
Number of church services held during the year, 52; sermons preached, 68; Holy Communions administered, 1,554; baptisms, 8; funeral services, 16
Kommunizierende = registered communicant
https://www.google.com/search?q="registered communicant"&oq=...
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The round figure of 500 looks like an estimate based on a stock take of wafers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacramental_bread
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=b5oZAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA10-PA9...
Number of church services held during the year, 52; sermons preached, 68; Holy Communions administered, 1,554; baptisms, 8; funeral services, 16
Kommunizierende = registered communicant
https://www.google.com/search?q="registered communicant"&oq=...
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Note added at 19 hrs (2021-02-18 20:12:44 GMT)
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The round figure of 500 looks like an estimate based on a stock take of wafers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacramental_bread
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Comment: "Thank you!"
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David Hollywood
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adherents
that kommunikant, practising a similar manner of dialogue, does not possess ... it is possible to consider communicative behaviour of the adherent of the most ...
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This is made up of both Communicant Members and Adherents – both of whom have the right to a full say or the right to vote on any ...
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Within the wider Presbyterian Church structure, there are two types of membership that exist within a local church:
· An “adherent member” is someone who calls Grafton Presbyterian their church and meets regularly with us without taking formal membership.
· A “communicant member” is someone who has taken formal membership, calls Grafton Presbyterian their church and meets regularly with us.
There are two important differences between adherents and communicants, is that:
· Only a Christian can become a communicant.
· Only communicants can have a role in determining who the minister and elders are.
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This is made up of both Communicant Members and Adherents – both of whom have the right to a full say or the right to vote on any ...
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Note added at 3 hrs (2021-02-18 03:49:28 GMT)
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Within the wider Presbyterian Church structure, there are two types of membership that exist within a local church:
· An “adherent member” is someone who calls Grafton Presbyterian their church and meets regularly with us without taking formal membership.
· A “communicant member” is someone who has taken formal membership, calls Grafton Presbyterian their church and meets regularly with us.
There are two important differences between adherents and communicants, is that:
· Only a Christian can become a communicant.
· Only communicants can have a role in determining who the minister and elders are.
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: Your only reference containing "Kommunikant" is complete nonsense.
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Cillie Swart
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communion takers
I agree with Phil. The second part of the list appears to refer to events like marriages and baptisms and the first part to types of people or other nouns like schools. So I would agree that kommunizierende may mean people who actually took communion or who are eligible to partake of it.
Kommunikanten will then be the number of times that communion was administered. The question may come up, more than once per day? No, the number of times that communion was administered to someone. So 500 times, someone took communion. It may even be that it was rounded off because they don't have a precise record of who took it more than once. Also maybe there were some people from out of town who were just there when it was served.
Kommunikanten will then be the number of times that communion was administered. The question may come up, more than once per day? No, the number of times that communion was administered to someone. So 500 times, someone took communion. It may even be that it was rounded off because they don't have a precise record of who took it more than once. Also maybe there were some people from out of town who were just there when it was served.
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communicants
Active members of a church offering communion
Example sentence:
the Warden may delegate the matter to the Chaplain or another Fellow of the College who is an actual communicant member of the Church of England
Reference:
Discussion
from Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharist_in_Lutheranism
http://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kommunion#Römisch-katholische...