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vini eccentrici
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How would you translate vini eccentrici in this context. My understanding is wines that are not produced in-house, i.e. the grapes are grown in a vineyard and sent somewhere else for production, correct me if I'm wrong. But what is the succinct English translation? Thanks for your help!
I nostri vini sono dunque delle creature viventi, generate da forze molteplici complementari: in primis le caratteristiche del vitigno, poi quelle del terroir ed infine le nostre cure, ma anche la nostra creatività. Non troverete mai nei nostri vini profumi e aromi artefatti, industriali, costruiti in cantina, per soddisfare il gusto del mercato, ma nemmeno vini eccentrici, frutto di una creatività estranea al contesto in cui vive.
I nostri vini sono dunque delle creature viventi, generate da forze molteplici complementari: in primis le caratteristiche del vitigno, poi quelle del terroir ed infine le nostre cure, ma anche la nostra creatività. Non troverete mai nei nostri vini profumi e aromi artefatti, industriali, costruiti in cantina, per soddisfare il gusto del mercato, ma nemmeno vini eccentrici, frutto di una creatività estranea al contesto in cui vive.
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Wolfgang Hager
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designer wines
the sentence makes clear that this is strictly about wines produced by the vineyard
designer wines are a new marketing ploy from creative Southern Hemisphere producers
designer wines are a new marketing ploy from creative Southern Hemisphere producers
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LAURA PALAMENGA
: I agree with you.
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philgoddard
: That's a great idea. I don't fully understand Michael's comment below, but I think he's missing the point.
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Michael Korovkin
: U r missing the point:"Vini fatti in casa" doesn't mean made from monoculture.Most of the best wines in the world(I'm trying to waste my life on drinking)are made(in casa!)from several varieties.It's not about what is made;it's about how – the typology.
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!) the text clearly suggests vino fatto in casa, as the best wines are; you have led a wasted life knowing only blended wines;. 2) Designer Wine is almost a proper noun for a new craze; no other wine would merit the term eccentrici.is
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Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche
: "Designer wines" fits, it means that people are creating new combinations to produce new flavours, not the traditional regional recipe: Chianti wine is made of 80% Sangiovese grapes with 20% of Canaiolo, Colorino, Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot. chianti.it
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Vittorio Ferretti
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bizarre wines
Webster's: "bizarre = strikingly out of the ordinary ... atypical"
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Lara Barnett
: Using Bizarre here would completely distort the correct meaning.
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Jeanie Eldon
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eclectic wines
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Wendy Streitparth
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authentic wines
For those of you who may not be up on the jargon, authentic is increasingly being used hand in hand with "natural" to describe a supposedly unique class of wines -- usually those made with biodynamic processes, in small quantities, using traditional techniques.
http://www.vinography.com/archives/2005/10/what_is_an_authen...
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Or natural wine.
http://www.vinography.com/archives/2005/10/what_is_an_authen...
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Or natural wine.
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philgoddard
: Again, this would mean "our wines are not authentic".
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Oh goodness yes. Lost track of what I was thinking!
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Juan Arturo Blackmore Zerón
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Kathryn Jones
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Quirky
Eccentric just makes me think of old ladies in purple hats. I think quirky can be positive or slightly negative (as needed here) depending on context. It's saying their wines are authentic, not something fake created for a current fad.
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Giovanni Guarnieri MITI, MIL
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Thanks Giovanni
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philgoddard
: Quirky is positive. As you say, we're looking for a negative term. You can't say "our wines are not quirky".
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Michael Korovkin
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otlandish wines
eccentric / outre wines
non corresponding to the local traditions, usages, etc.
It has nothing to do with where the "masse" (so -called masses: juices/mosti/just grape masses) come from. Most wines are made from several varieties, but very few wineyards grow more than one. So, apart from few relatively expensive ones (and, paradoxically, dirt-cheap ones), most wines are more or less "concocted".
Here, it's just about not adhering to a certain typology of wine (see Discussion again)
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seing the responses, I'd like to add that what you're translating is quite obviously a sales pitch by some commercial wine-making "house"/enterprise and not by some cottage-industry enthusiast churning out home-made wines. So, all that rousseau-ist harkening to in-house are neither here nor there: as I said, most wines are made in-house. It doesn't mean anything. What's important is not even what they're made from but how they are made: there is Merlot at €3.50, € 700 (Masseto), €2500 (Chateau Petrus), etc. What they are talking about is HOW. Chateau Petrus will not make rose', and Cristal (rose) will not make prosecco.... although both of them easily could (FROM THE SAME GRAPE they make there wines now)
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A thought: have a look – what are those guys make their wine/s from. Very easy, just google the product. Is it monoculture (doubt it) or several varieties together? That will tell you a lot... but not all... Also see if their wines are DOC or at least IGT. If they are not, then they are simply bul...ing.
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In our wines you would never find idustrial flavours and scents artificially concocted in the cellar to cater to the market fashions, nor would you find any eccentric/outlandish wines resulting from creativity foreign to its own context.
with that, I wash my paws! :))
non corresponding to the local traditions, usages, etc.
It has nothing to do with where the "masse" (so -called masses: juices/mosti/just grape masses) come from. Most wines are made from several varieties, but very few wineyards grow more than one. So, apart from few relatively expensive ones (and, paradoxically, dirt-cheap ones), most wines are more or less "concocted".
Here, it's just about not adhering to a certain typology of wine (see Discussion again)
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seing the responses, I'd like to add that what you're translating is quite obviously a sales pitch by some commercial wine-making "house"/enterprise and not by some cottage-industry enthusiast churning out home-made wines. So, all that rousseau-ist harkening to in-house are neither here nor there: as I said, most wines are made in-house. It doesn't mean anything. What's important is not even what they're made from but how they are made: there is Merlot at €3.50, € 700 (Masseto), €2500 (Chateau Petrus), etc. What they are talking about is HOW. Chateau Petrus will not make rose', and Cristal (rose) will not make prosecco.... although both of them easily could (FROM THE SAME GRAPE they make there wines now)
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Note added at 5 hrs (2020-03-09 17:35:17 GMT)
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A thought: have a look – what are those guys make their wine/s from. Very easy, just google the product. Is it monoculture (doubt it) or several varieties together? That will tell you a lot... but not all... Also see if their wines are DOC or at least IGT. If they are not, then they are simply bul...ing.
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In our wines you would never find idustrial flavours and scents artificially concocted in the cellar to cater to the market fashions, nor would you find any eccentric/outlandish wines resulting from creativity foreign to its own context.
with that, I wash my paws! :))
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philgoddard
: Outlandish doesn't mean "not corresponding to the local traditions". It means the same as bizarre.
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U r missing the point:"Vini fatti in casa" doesn't mean made from monoculture.Most of the best wines in the world(I'm trying to waste my life on drinking)are made(in casa!)from several varieties.It's not about what is made;it's about how – the typology.
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Maria santissima assunta, abbia pieta' di noi paccatori: it's just a producer's sales pitch and a preposterous one at that, as they often are. "In primis"...:))
And I repeat again, unless we are talking about an amateur pensioner-accountant from Norich pretending to be landed gentry on his 3.5 acres in Umbria (can't afford Toscana) or a peasant making wine for himself, ALL wines today are "designed" (by oenologist) they may be designed to be typical for the area or quite outrageous, outlandish, "original" and, yes, bizarre. Lots of people do that now, trying to get ahead.