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English term
Orphans' court
English to French
Law/Patents
Law: Contract(s)
Marriage certificate
This is a marriage certificate from the US which was issued by "the Orphans' Court".
Even if I leave it in English what would be the best explanation / translation ?
Thanks a lot
Even if I leave it in English what would be the best explanation / translation ?
Thanks a lot
Proposed translations
(French)
References
Cour des orphelins | Bridget Jean |
Proposed translations
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23 mins
tribunal des orphelins
Note from asker:
Merci beaucoup mais en fait il faut une explication un peu plus précise car l'administration française a besoin de comprendre de quoi il s'agit. |
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1 hr
tribunal des successions et des affaires familiales
Le 17 novembre 2005 le juge du tribunal des successions et des affaires familiales du compté de Norfolk,
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichJuriJudi.do?idTexte=JUR...
On trouve aussi
LE TRIBUNAL DES SUCCESSIONS ET DES TUTELLES DU COMTE DE NEW-YORK
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichJuriJudi.do?idTexte=JUR...
ça dépend des compétences de ce tribunal qui change suivant les Etats. Avez-vous l'Etat ? Mais ce qui revient c'est tribunal des successions.
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https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichJuriJudi.do?idTexte=JUR...
On trouve aussi
LE TRIBUNAL DES SUCCESSIONS ET DES TUTELLES DU COMTE DE NEW-YORK
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichJuriJudi.do?idTexte=JUR...
ça dépend des compétences de ce tribunal qui change suivant les Etats. Avez-vous l'Etat ? Mais ce qui revient c'est tribunal des successions.
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*qui changent*
Note from asker:
Oui il s'agit de la Pennsylvanie |
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: Indulging in a bit of research instead of presuming and guessing - that's an interesting idea! also https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/orphan's court
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Merci !
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ph-b (X)
: Garder l’anglais pour la référence, mais proposer un équivalent acceptable et intelligible est la bonne démarche (l’équivalent exact n’existant pas ici).PS. OK pour « successions et tutelles » indiqué dans votre réponse et confirmé par Eliza Hall.
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Merci !
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Eliza Hall
: "Affaires familiales" is too broad (that's Family Court in most states). Orphan's Court = successions and some other matters relating to children and incapacitated adults.
3 days 4 hrs
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1 hr
Cour des Orphelins
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Cour des orphelins dans le Tribunal des successions (Maryland et Pennsylvanie)
Cour des successions en Angleterre et au Canada
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Cour des orphelins dans le Tribunal des successions (Maryland et Pennsylvanie)
Cour des successions en Angleterre et au Canada
Peer comment(s):
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Bridget Jean
54 mins
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disagree |
Eliza Hall
: Linguistically yes, legally no. It's a court that handles probate/successions (the name comes from its role in protecting orphans by ensuring they inherit what they're supposed to and have guardians).
3 days 3 hrs
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3 days 5 hrs
Tribunal des successions et des tutelles
Orphans' Court handles disputes and administrative matters relating to successions, inheritances, trusts, and everything to do with guardianships and similar things (e.g. powers of attorney). The list is LONG, but as long as your translation references both estates/successions and guardianships, it's accurate.
But Orphans' Court is NOT the same as Family Court. For example, Pennsylvania is one of the states that has an Orphans' Court. They also have a Family Court. Here are links explaining the competencies of each court:
Family Court - https://www.courts.phila.gov/common-pleas/family/
"The Juvenile Branch [of Family Court] has jurisdiction over delinquency, dependency, termination of parental rights and adoption proceedings. Domestic Relations deals with paternity, support, custody, visitation, and divorce. Domestic Violence cases are also assigned to the Domestic Relations Branch."
Orphans Court - https://www.courts.phila.gov/common-pleas/orphans/
"The Orphans' Court... serves to protect the personal and property rights of all persons and entities who are otherwise incapable of managing their own affairs.
The Court's jurisdiction extends to minors, incapacitated persons, decedents, trusts, principals and agents under powers of attorney, non-profit charitable organizations, cemetery companies, inalienable property and marriage licenses. The Court appoints guardians for minors and incapacitated persons to handle their financial affairs and/or their health and safety needs. The actions and accounts of fiduciaries, including guardians, agents under powers of attorney, executors, administrators, and trustees are examined and audited. The Court hears disputes involving inheritance and estate tax and marriage license issues. Questions regarding the administration and distribution of the decedents', minors' and incapacitated persons' estates, testamentary and inter vivos trusts, special needs trusts, non-profit corporations organized for charitable purposes, as well as Appeals from the Register of Wills are adjudicated and resolved. Settlements of actions involving minors, incapacitated persons, decedent's estates and wrongful death and survival beneficiaries are reviewed. Authorizations to act as an approved corporate fiduciary are issued by the Court."
But Orphans' Court is NOT the same as Family Court. For example, Pennsylvania is one of the states that has an Orphans' Court. They also have a Family Court. Here are links explaining the competencies of each court:
Family Court - https://www.courts.phila.gov/common-pleas/family/
"The Juvenile Branch [of Family Court] has jurisdiction over delinquency, dependency, termination of parental rights and adoption proceedings. Domestic Relations deals with paternity, support, custody, visitation, and divorce. Domestic Violence cases are also assigned to the Domestic Relations Branch."
Orphans Court - https://www.courts.phila.gov/common-pleas/orphans/
"The Orphans' Court... serves to protect the personal and property rights of all persons and entities who are otherwise incapable of managing their own affairs.
The Court's jurisdiction extends to minors, incapacitated persons, decedents, trusts, principals and agents under powers of attorney, non-profit charitable organizations, cemetery companies, inalienable property and marriage licenses. The Court appoints guardians for minors and incapacitated persons to handle their financial affairs and/or their health and safety needs. The actions and accounts of fiduciaries, including guardians, agents under powers of attorney, executors, administrators, and trustees are examined and audited. The Court hears disputes involving inheritance and estate tax and marriage license issues. Questions regarding the administration and distribution of the decedents', minors' and incapacitated persons' estates, testamentary and inter vivos trusts, special needs trusts, non-profit corporations organized for charitable purposes, as well as Appeals from the Register of Wills are adjudicated and resolved. Settlements of actions involving minors, incapacitated persons, decedent's estates and wrongful death and survival beneficiaries are reviewed. Authorizations to act as an approved corporate fiduciary are issued by the Court."
Reference comments
2 hrs
Reference:
Cour des orphelins
Cour des orphelins
Un tribunal pour orphelins était une organisation établie dans les colonies américaines de la baie de Chesapeake pendant la colonisation. L’objectif principal cette institution était de protéger les enfants orphelins dans leur droit à la succession du membre de leur famille décédé des réclamations et des abus commis par leurs beaux-parents et d’autres personnes.
Aujourd'hui, au moins dans le Maryland et en Pennsylvanie, les tribunaux des successions sont encore appelés tribunaux des orphelins. Pour des raisons historiques, ils doivent connaître des testaments de successions contestées et superviser les successions soumises à une vérification judiciaire
Un tribunal pour orphelins était une organisation établie dans les colonies américaines de la baie de Chesapeake pendant la colonisation. L’objectif principal cette institution était de protéger les enfants orphelins dans leur droit à la succession du membre de leur famille décédé des réclamations et des abus commis par leurs beaux-parents et d’autres personnes.
Aujourd'hui, au moins dans le Maryland et en Pennsylvanie, les tribunaux des successions sont encore appelés tribunaux des orphelins. Pour des raisons historiques, ils doivent connaître des testaments de successions contestées et superviser les successions soumises à une vérification judiciaire
Note from asker:
Merci beaucoup ! Cela dit, comment expliquer de manière simple et succincte ce qu'est un tribunal des orphelins pour que l'administration française comprenne ? |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Cyril Tollari
: C'est du wikipedia. Allez sur legifrance.gouv.fr et vérifiez si Cour des orphelins est compréhensible par l'administration française. Tribunal des successions et des affaires familiales s'applique aux Etat-Unis et est compréhensible au moins.
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