Jan 17, 2020 21:52
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Spanish term
Ss
Spanish to English
Medical
Medical (general)
From a Costa Rican medical record:
ORL sin alteraciones.
RsCsRs, Ss, CsPs sin ruidos agregados, MV normal
Abdomen sin alteraciones.
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RsCsRs= rhythmic heart sounds
Ss= ?
CsPs= lung fields
ORL sin alteraciones.
RsCsRs, Ss, CsPs sin ruidos agregados, MV normal
Abdomen sin alteraciones.
.........
RsCsRs= rhythmic heart sounds
Ss= ?
CsPs= lung fields
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | No murmurs |
Marie Wilson
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| 4 | Murmurs |
Stephen D. Moore
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| 4 | simétricas |
Neil Ashby
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| 3 +1 | systolic murmur |
Thomas Walker
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Proposed translations
30 mins
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No murmurs
Maybe. Ss = Sin soplos
previous question:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/medical-genera...
Rs Cs Rs sin soplos
English translation: normal (regular) heart sounds, no murmurs
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Note added at 34 mins (2020-01-17 22:26:45 GMT)
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http://microinfectio.blogs.uv.es/blogs.microinfectio.uv.es › files › 2014/12 › itu
caso clínico - Microinfectio
Auscultación cardiaca: ruidos cardiacos regulares, sin soplos. –
https://www.elsevier.es/www.elsevier.es › es-revista-medicina-familia-semer...
Comunicación Comunicaciones orales | Medicina de Familia ...
Mar 5, 2016 - AC: Ruidos cardíacos regulares sin soplos.
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Note added at 45 mins (2020-01-17 22:37:47 GMT)
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At times it's hard to see the wood for the trees!
previous question:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/medical-genera...
Rs Cs Rs sin soplos
English translation: normal (regular) heart sounds, no murmurs
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Note added at 34 mins (2020-01-17 22:26:45 GMT)
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http://microinfectio.blogs.uv.es/blogs.microinfectio.uv.es › files › 2014/12 › itu
caso clínico - Microinfectio
Auscultación cardiaca: ruidos cardiacos regulares, sin soplos. –
https://www.elsevier.es/www.elsevier.es › es-revista-medicina-familia-semer...
Comunicación Comunicaciones orales | Medicina de Familia ...
Mar 5, 2016 - AC: Ruidos cardíacos regulares sin soplos.
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Note added at 45 mins (2020-01-17 22:37:47 GMT)
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At times it's hard to see the wood for the trees!
Note from asker:
| Of course! I was thinking that just "soplos" wouldn't make sense. "Sin" just didn't pop into my head. Thanks! |
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Stephen D. Moore
: Lowercase repetition such as this almost invariably indicates the plural..
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In an ideal world, I agree Stephen. But it didn't seem likely to me in this context, and many texts have typos/irregular capitalisation, and this may even have started out as handwritten scrawl.
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| agree |
Chema Nieto Castañón
: En el contexto difícilmente puede significar otra cosa. Habitualmente expresado como s/s, S/S, ss, SS "Soplos", así sin otra especificación como sugiere Stephen, parece opción muchísimo más extraña que un simple error de capitalización
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Muchas gracias, Chema :-) Es mejor guiarse por la lógica.
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Neil Ashby
: At every other point in the report the author has written "sin", so why not here? I think it means "simétricas".
14 hrs
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Who knows, but it was written I imagine by a doctor, not a proofreader, and style and consistency might not be the main concern.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks Marie!"
4 hrs
Stephen D. Moore
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
Getting the meaning across.
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish
Related KudoZ points
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71
Murmurs
When a capitalized initial used as abbreviation is repeated in lower case in Spanish, it almost always means the plural. For example, Ee.U.u. = Estados Unidos, plural.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Chema Nieto Castañón
: You are right about Ss suggesting a plural (EEUU is a very bad example). And yet "soplos" ("murmurs"), as such, is something that no one would write on a report...
57 mins
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14 hrs
Neil Ashby
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Specializes in field
Spain
DrNeil TechTrans, Precision & Clarity
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English
Related KudoZ points
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354
simétricas
As Chema states, it would be strange to say "murmurs" on the report, yet it doesn't include "no" or "sin" to indicate "no murmurs".
I think it means "simétricas".
See:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/medical-cardio...
CsRsSs
carótidas rítmicas y simétricas
http://www.cosnautas.com/siglas/7888-csrsss
I think it means "simétricas".
See:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/medical-cardio...
CsRsSs
carótidas rítmicas y simétricas
http://www.cosnautas.com/siglas/7888-csrsss
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Chema Nieto Castañón
: I thought about it, but makes no sense after RRCCRR; ruidos cardíacos rítmicos "y simétricos"... No cuaja. La doble "s", aunque con errónea capitalización, puede leerse como sin soplos. No se me ocurren otras opciones válidas -y te aseguro que he buscado!
22 mins
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+1
1 day 2 hrs
systolic murmur
I agree with Chema, that in English probably no one would write "murmurs" in a medical report.
One ambiguity in the ST: does "sin ruidos agregados" apply only to "CsPs", or to the whole series "RsCsRs, Ss, CsPs"? If to the series, then "Ss" on its own does not have to include the indication of the absence of it. We would then have "Ss sin ruidos agregados". In Beattie's book, "SS & "Ss" are listed as abbreviations of "Soplo sistólico", "Systolic murmur". He also has a listing for "S/S" & "s/s", which he equates to "Sin soplos", "with no audible murmurs", etc.
One ambiguity in the ST: does "sin ruidos agregados" apply only to "CsPs", or to the whole series "RsCsRs, Ss, CsPs"? If to the series, then "Ss" on its own does not have to include the indication of the absence of it. We would then have "Ss sin ruidos agregados". In Beattie's book, "SS & "Ss" are listed as abbreviations of "Soplo sistólico", "Systolic murmur". He also has a listing for "S/S" & "s/s", which he equates to "Sin soplos", "with no audible murmurs", etc.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Chema Nieto Castañón
: Y sí. Estaba precisamente elaborando mi propia respuesta en este sentido. Aunque habitualmente SS va seguido de alguna descripción específica (grado, foco) es posible encontrarlo aislado y es la opción que más sentido tiene, también por las comas.
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Discussion
Así, creo que la cabecera debe leerse así:
Ruidos cardíacos rítmicos, soplo sistólico, campos pulmonares sin ruidos agregados (con) murmullo vesicular normal.
* "sin ruidos agregados" afecta sólo a "campos pulmonares". "Soplo sistólico" no tendría coletilla en este caso, apareciendo aislado (lo cual resulta excepcional pero no único).
Una opción alternativa es que se trate de un error, en tanto que CS (CsSs; carótidas simétricas), pero sería extraño también y la elección de mayúscula/minúscula del original seguiría siendo errónea.
Ciertamente no se me ocurren alternativas válidas por lo que la opción más sencilla (SS vs Ss: "sin soplos") parece la opción de sentido más razonable en este caso.
Seguiré dándole vueltas a pesar de todo ;)
Saludos.