Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
ordonnance d'achat
English translation:
prescription for purchase
Added to glossary by
Tony M
Nov 28, 2019 12:51
4 yrs ago
French term
United Kingdom
Qualified, professional, quality
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English, German to English
ordonnance d'achat
French to English
Medical
Medical (general)
Regarding a medical device hire
The text describes a 6 month rental period for a medical device. It says after this period that an "ordonnance d'achat" may be created but I do not know what this is.
I know ordonnance is usually a prescription but I am confused by the purchase/procurement element.
"Au bout des 6 mois de location, une ordonnance d'achat peut être établie."
Thank you in advance.
I know ordonnance is usually a prescription but I am confused by the purchase/procurement element.
"Au bout des 6 mois de location, une ordonnance d'achat peut être établie."
Thank you in advance.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +2 | prescription for purchase |
Tony M
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| 4 | purchase option |
SafeTex
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| 4 -1 | prescription for reimbursement of a medical device |
Drmanu49
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| 3 | purchase order |
liz askew
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Change log
Dec 5, 2019 21:11: Tony M Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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prescription for purchase
Following a trial period when the device is on rental, if it seems that the patient's need is being met, after review, the Dr may issue a prescription to purchase the device outright.
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Note added at 1 day 20 hrs (2019-11-30 09:46:09 GMT)
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Asker, as several of us have mentioned, it does all depend a bit on the wider context, and the country this text originates from?
If this is from the medical side, then 'prescription' seems highly likely; however, if it is from the POV of the equipment manufacturer, say, then the situation might be different, if they are in essence saying "available to rent or buy".
Either way, I'd be very surprised if anyone here in mainland France would use the word 'ordonnance' with any other meaning, unless it were in some formal or legal etc. text where such other usages are more common.
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Note added at 1 day 20 hrs (2019-11-30 09:46:09 GMT)
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Asker, as several of us have mentioned, it does all depend a bit on the wider context, and the country this text originates from?
If this is from the medical side, then 'prescription' seems highly likely; however, if it is from the POV of the equipment manufacturer, say, then the situation might be different, if they are in essence saying "available to rent or buy".
Either way, I'd be very surprised if anyone here in mainland France would use the word 'ordonnance' with any other meaning, unless it were in some formal or legal etc. text where such other usages are more common.
Peer comment(s):
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Drmanu49
: Tony if a prescription is needed it is for the sake of reimbursement otherwise no prescription would be needed.
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That of course goes without saying: but here the distinction is being made between rental and then subsequent purchase
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Yvonne Gallagher
: presumably a "prescription" rather than an ordinary PO so it can be offset as a medical expense and/or a prescription needed to be allowed buy the device?
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Thanks, Yvonne! That's how I would interpret it...
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liz askew
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Thanks, Liz!
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SafeTex
: i'm not convinced by this as "ordonnace" can mean other things and I live in France but have never seen people get a presecription for a medical aid that has been on lease.
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Why should you have done? I, however, have, as I have been directly affected by just this sort of situation.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you "
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prescription for reimbursement of a medical device
https://www.namsa.com › uploads › 2015/10 › NAMS...
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Planning for Successful. Medical Device. Reimbursement: Health Economics. By Tiffini Diage, MPH. So Your Device Is Cleared, Now What?
Termes manquants : prescription
Medical Reimbursement List
https://www.tlv.se › in-english › pricing-and-reimburse...
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Medical device consumables must be prescribed just as pharmaceuticals to be eligible for reimbursement. Patients can be prescribed medical device consumables by physician or other persons granted the ability to prescribe by The National Board of Health and Welfare.
https://www.flexplan.com › mrlist
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To be eligible for reimbursement, prescriptions are required for all over-the-counter (OTC) medicines or drugs other than insulin. OTC items that are not medicines or drugs (equipment, medical devices and supplies) are reimbursable without a prescription.
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Note added at 40 minutes (2019-11-28 13:31:42 GMT)
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https://www.red-on-line.fr › ... › Santé et Conditions de Travail
29 août 2017 - ... tenu de rembourser l'achat par un salarié d'un dispositif médical... ... Il est indiqué dans l'ordonnance adressée par le médecin du travail à ...
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Note added at 43 minutes (2019-11-28 13:35:14 GMT)
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The patient will buy the medical device and needs a prescription for the purchase to be reimbursed by the French SS.
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Note added at 44 minutes (2019-11-28 13:35:49 GMT)
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https://www.has-sante.fr › jcms › parcours-du-dispositif-medical-en-france...
2.6. Tarification des dispositifs médicaux inscrits sur la LPPR ... Prix limite de vente .... le suivi clinique après la mise sur le marché et après le remboursement.
Termes manquants : ordonnance
Electrostimulation : les dispositifs remboursés par l'Assurance ...
https://www.neurotracshop.com › L'achat en toute confiance
La prescription médicale (ou ordonnance); La feuille de soins; Le traitement ... L'Assurance maladie rembourse l'électrostimulateur périnéal en cas de ... nos soins lors de l'achat d'un dispositif médical conventionné par l'Assurance Maladaie.
Traduire cette page
Planning for Successful. Medical Device. Reimbursement: Health Economics. By Tiffini Diage, MPH. So Your Device Is Cleared, Now What?
Termes manquants : prescription
Medical Reimbursement List
https://www.tlv.se › in-english › pricing-and-reimburse...
Traduire cette page
Medical device consumables must be prescribed just as pharmaceuticals to be eligible for reimbursement. Patients can be prescribed medical device consumables by physician or other persons granted the ability to prescribe by The National Board of Health and Welfare.
https://www.flexplan.com › mrlist
Traduire cette page
To be eligible for reimbursement, prescriptions are required for all over-the-counter (OTC) medicines or drugs other than insulin. OTC items that are not medicines or drugs (equipment, medical devices and supplies) are reimbursable without a prescription.
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Note added at 40 minutes (2019-11-28 13:31:42 GMT)
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https://www.red-on-line.fr › ... › Santé et Conditions de Travail
29 août 2017 - ... tenu de rembourser l'achat par un salarié d'un dispositif médical... ... Il est indiqué dans l'ordonnance adressée par le médecin du travail à ...
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Note added at 43 minutes (2019-11-28 13:35:14 GMT)
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The patient will buy the medical device and needs a prescription for the purchase to be reimbursed by the French SS.
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Note added at 44 minutes (2019-11-28 13:35:49 GMT)
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https://www.has-sante.fr › jcms › parcours-du-dispositif-medical-en-france...
2.6. Tarification des dispositifs médicaux inscrits sur la LPPR ... Prix limite de vente .... le suivi clinique après la mise sur le marché et après le remboursement.
Termes manquants : ordonnance
Electrostimulation : les dispositifs remboursés par l'Assurance ...
https://www.neurotracshop.com › L'achat en toute confiance
La prescription médicale (ou ordonnance); La feuille de soins; Le traitement ... L'Assurance maladie rembourse l'électrostimulateur périnéal en cas de ... nos soins lors de l'achat d'un dispositif médical conventionné par l'Assurance Maladaie.
Note from asker:
| Thank you! |
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: The 'achat' here is nothing to do with the underlying re-imbursement. Your refs. do not actually support your suggestion. / That of course goes without saying: but here the distinction is being made between rental and then subsequent purchase
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Tony if a prescription is needed it is for the sake of reimbursement//You have French refs above.
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purchase order
Medical Device Procedures Final - University Hospitals ...
https://hgs.uhb.nhs.uk › wp-content › uploads › Medical-Devices-Procedur...
Attachment 1 – Process for the procurement of a medical device … .... Before an order is placed, prospective suppliers of medical equipment to the Trust will be ...
[DOC]Suppliers and Supplier Representative Guidance - Guy's and ...
https://www.guysandstthomas.nhs.uk › our-services › procurement › suppl...
In order to establish and maintain good working relationships with the Trust's ... to deliver and /or provide goods or services, unless a purchase order is provided. ... All trials must be undertaken in line with the Trust medical devices policy.
although ordonnance does = prescription
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Note added at 1 hr (2019-11-28 14:16:36 GMT)
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https://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/ordonnance
but it can mean
order
https://hgs.uhb.nhs.uk › wp-content › uploads › Medical-Devices-Procedur...
Attachment 1 – Process for the procurement of a medical device … .... Before an order is placed, prospective suppliers of medical equipment to the Trust will be ...
[DOC]Suppliers and Supplier Representative Guidance - Guy's and ...
https://www.guysandstthomas.nhs.uk › our-services › procurement › suppl...
In order to establish and maintain good working relationships with the Trust's ... to deliver and /or provide goods or services, unless a purchase order is provided. ... All trials must be undertaken in line with the Trust medical devices policy.
although ordonnance does = prescription
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Note added at 1 hr (2019-11-28 14:16:36 GMT)
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https://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/ordonnance
but it can mean
order
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: Context missing: depends WHO it is raising this 'ordonnance'?
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yes, also I think "ordonnance = "order" in legal terminology:)
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6 hrs
purchase option
As it's at the end of a lease, I'm pretty sure this is okay
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: there are some similarities, but both your references are from a totally different context.
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Hello Daryo. I'm not sure that is a problem. For instance, the following site has a hearing aid purchase option: https://www.hearingaidexperts.com/financing-options/
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GILLES MEUNIER
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Tony M
: This would tend to suggest that the patient has the option to purchase, which is almost certainly not right here: the mention of 'ordonnance' strongly suggests the re-imbursement healthcare system as used in France.
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Hello Tony: it could just be a coincidence as "ordonnance" can mean other thiings than "prescription" but it does make the French more ambiguous than we would like
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