Aug 21, 2019 09:20
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Spanish term

Poblado de absorción

Spanish to English Art/Literary Architecture
From an academic article whose subject is urban restoration of 'poblados dirigidos' in Madrid Spain. I have translated 'poblado dirigidos' as 'neighbourhood units' which is a US concept. Other possibilities relating to UK could be 'new town' or 'public housing estate'.
But I am looking for an exact translation of the above which is not literal which expresses the distinction between it and the 'poblado dirigido'

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Toni Castano Aug 22, 2019:
Two relevant references 1) https://books.google.es/books?id=Qk7vCQAAQBAJ&pg=PA57&lpg=PA...
The plan for Madrid comprised four components conceptualized in four consecutive phases: the so-called Poblados de Absorción, or take-over units, which aimed at relocating the population of the shanty towns in new homes within provisional settlements (…).
The Poblados de Absorción, built between 1954-1956, were temporary constructions developed to relocate the illegal settlers in order to free the grounds for the main roads into the city.
2) http://www.otrohabitat.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/LAS-DE...
En realidad los Poblados de Absorción tenían un carácter de provisionalidad para dar respuesta a una emergencia social y de hábitat, calculándose su amortización para un uso de 10 a 12 años.
Toni Castano Aug 22, 2019:
@Andrew, colleagues Although I´ve opened this topic too late, when the question is already closed, it soon attracted my attention as a Spaniard and decided to post a couple of words on it. The query term "poblado de absorción" meant nothing particular to me at first sight. I had not been born when those provisional settlements were built in Spain in the fifties of the last century. I started then a little research out of curiosity and found out that they were provisional settlements created with the intention of relocating illegal settlers living in shanty towns in the outskirts of Madrid and some other big Spanish cities, like Barcelona. What I infer from the sources examined is that they all were "provisional" settlements, i.e. they were not built with the intention of offering planned housing in the long term. In fact, those "poblados" were only the first stage of a more ambitious housing programme. I very much respect Helena´s in-depth analysis of the situation, but I don´t know if there´s an exact equivalence in English, which maintains the idea of provisionality so essential to the nature of the "poblados de absorción" (in fact, most of them disappeared in the next decades).
Helena Chavarria Aug 21, 2019:
Poblado dirigido = new town Stevenage (/ˈstiːvənɪdʒ/ STEE-vən-ij) is a town and borough in Hertfordshire, England, 28 miles (44 km) north of London.[2] Stevenage is east of junctions 7 and 8 of the A1(M), between Letchworth Garden City to the north and Welwyn Garden City to the south. In 1946, Stevenage was designated the United Kingdom's first New Town under the New Towns Act.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevenage

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Overspill estate

The creation of the district

Until the end of the 1960's, La Mina was little more than an area of cultivated fields, livestock and La Mina, view from the motorwayscattered hamlets just outside the Barcelona city limits. At the time Barcelona was experiencing very high immigration from less developed areas of Spain, particularly Andalusia. The immigrants arrived in the city with minimal resources leading to the growth of some of the largest shanty town constructions in the country. Shacks sprung up in many peripheral parts of the city, including Montjuïc, Campo de La Bota, Perona, Casa Antúez, l'Hospitalet and Hospital de St. Pau.

Barcelona had been looking for a solution to this serious shanty town problem since the end of the1950's. A planned New Town in the district was approved in 1959 but not realised. It was not until 1968 that land was purchased by the Barcelona Council for the construction of low-rent housing in La Mina.

Construction began in 1969 but was quickly brought to a halt after the completion of only approximately 500 apartments when the city council realised that the size of the blocks would not permit the relocation of all the shanty town residents. This first development in the district is subsequently known as 'Mina Vieja' (Old Mina).

https://geographyfieldwork.com/La Mina.htm

An overspill estate is a housing estate planned and built for the housing of excess population in urban areas, both from the natural increase of population and often in order to rehouse people from decaying inner city areas, usually as part of the process of slum clearance. They were created on the outskirts of most large British towns and during most of the 20th century, with new towns being an alternative approach outside London after World War II. The Town Development Act, 1952 encouraged the expansion of neighbouring urban areas rather than the creation of satellite communities.[1][2] Slum clearance tenants often had problems with the move, since it separated them from extended family and friends, needed services were often lacking, and only the better off workers could afford the extra cost of commuting back to their jobs.[3][4][5] Another criticism was that the new estates occupied what had been productive agricultural land.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overspill_estate

An overspill estate is a housing estate built to ease overcrowding on an existing housing estate. It may not be adjacent to the existing estate but located elsewhere in the city or town. In postwar Britain, they were built usually on greenfield land on the periphery of towns and cities to accommodate those displaced by the slum clearance programs in the inner-cities.

https://ukhousing.fandom.com/wiki/Overspill_estate

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Los Poblados de Absorción pretendian cumplir el doble objetivo de cobijar de forma rápida y barata a la población inmigrante que se asentaba en chabolas en el extrarradio de Madrid y organizarlos de manera ordenada en poblados satélites autónomos alrrededor de la capital. Arquitectónicamente, se trataba de bloques de viviendas unifamiliares en horizontal, de una o dos plantas, y de bloques colectivos de cuatro o cinco alturas. Los Poblados de Absorción fueron el principio de los posteriores “poblados dirigidos”, de los que en Fuencarral también existe un ejemplo.

https://urbancidades.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/poblados-de-ab...

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An overspill estate is a housing estate planned and built for the housing of excess population in urban areas, both from the natural increase of population and often in order to rehouse people from decaying inner city areas, usually as part of the process of slum clearance. They were created on the outskirts of most large British towns and during most of the 20th century, with new towns being an alternative approach outside London after World War II. The Town Development Act, 1952 encouraged the expansion of neighbouring urban areas rather than the creation of satellite communities. Slum clearance tenants often had problems with the move, since it separated them from extended family and friends, needed services were often lacking, and only the better off workers could afford the extra cost of commuting back to their jobs. Another criticism was that the new estates occupied what had been productive agricultural land.

https://www.revolvy.com/page/Overspill-estate

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As far as I know, I don't think there have ever been any shanty towns in the UK. Anyway, glad to have been of help and thanks for the points :-)
Note from asker:
Thanks for your work here Helena I intend to use your answer and will select your answer. Although I don't think there is an exact equivalent in UK and maybe US social history because they were built to replace shanty towns that had appeared at the edge of Spanish cities as rural populations moved to the cities for work
Peer comment(s):

agree Eduardo Ramos
2 hrs
Gracias, Eduardo :-)
agree Yvonne Gallagher
14 hrs
Thank you, Yvonne :-)
agree Sara Fairen
1 day 29 mins
Thank you, Sara :-)
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new town // satellite town

Note from asker:
A 'new town' is a possibility for the term 'poblado dirigido' although I preferred the US concept of 'neighbourhood unit'. A 'new town' is a separate fully functioning town near to a major city like London and a 'poblacion de absorption' is basically a big housing development/project intended to replace 'shanty towns'
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9 hrs

absorption town

Note from asker:
Too literal I am afraid. The answer must mean something to a native of the UK or US
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